How are Marvel gonna do the X-Men without it being a lazy rehash of the Fox-Verse(s)?

I've been thinking about this for a long while and I just don't see a way forward for the rumoured Mutant Saga after Secret Wars.

Fox did (imo) a pretty good job with most of their X-Men movies - I liked the vast majority of them, without outliers I didn't like, like the two Wolverine Origin movies.

They did so many stories and Characters, which again, I liked and thought they were pretty good.

Doing relatively similar stories with the same recast Characters just feels like a lazy rehash to me. I watched (and enjoyed) two Dark Phoenix movies with both the origin and the retcon.

We saw Magneto & Charlies meeting and developing their friendship.

Days of Future Past, The New Mutants coming together, all the Sentinel stuff, the Mutant Cure, Apocalypse, The Brotherhood & X-Men fighting and teaming up, younger versions of Characters, Wolverine's almost entire story arc, they even did Cable's storyline (although changed) in Deadpool 2.

I just don't see how Marvel can do a Mutant Saga when we've seen all the important Characters (done well) and a to of important Stories.

I'm not really interested in seeing all these Characters again - outside like Charles' cameo in DS2 and when their Universe is killed off in Doomsday.

And more importantly, I don't think generally audiences will either. Like they already seen all this stuff before, what could Marvel possibly do?

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NoLeadership22812025-10-16 10:57

I think Fox’s Xmen barely scratched the rich history of Xmen, there’s definitely enough material for marvel to adapt

0ddT0dd2025-10-16 10:57

For one thing they'll get Dark Phoenix right.

Vexx422025-10-16 10:57

Start with Inferno, that way we might see Charlie Cox fight a vacuum cleaner

Jaketrix2025-10-16 10:58

We are in for something special if it is half as good as X-Men 97.

Notoriously_So2025-10-16 10:58

There's hundreds of different stories to pull from.

SadHumbleFlower272025-10-16 10:59

There’s so much they can do. Fox butchered/ watered down every character that wasn’t Professor X, Magneto, Wolverine, or Deadpool.

walartjaegers2025-10-16 10:59

krakoa

SpaceHobbes2025-10-16 11:00

Most people would argue that the majority of X-Men movies are exceptionally mid and not particularly comic accurate.

Lots of characters were portrayed poorly or completely overlooked. Cyclops for example.

Not to mention it's been over a decade since we've seen a lot of the characters. People are already used to new takes on old super heroes.

We've had multiple versions of batman, spiderman, hulk, superman and so on. If they write good stories, nobody really cares what came before.

RevenantRoy2025-10-16 11:02

I think Marvel is looking for their Harry Potter-esque franchise and will try to do so with their take on X-Men. We'll get a younger generation / versions of many of the characters made popular and follow them along as they grow up and mature while attending school. Similar to what they started to do with X-Men: Apocalypse following younger Jean Grey, Scott and Nightcrawler.

Additionally to that, there's plenty of popular X-Men who were only barely featured in the original films or have not had many of their stories explored. Concurrently to the main X-Men series of films coming out every 2-3 years, I could see separate films or series focusing on other mutants. A story focused on Gambit and Rogue and their love story. A story focused on the Marauders as a sect of mutants who live underground. Maybe something about the Hellfire Club or Brotherhood of Mutants. Storm will probably factor into the Black Panther series, maybe casting a Storm that's around the same age as the new Black Panther. Wolverine will probably get his own standalone film again, given his popularity.

SWPrequelFan815662025-10-16 11:02

Jake Schreier has basically answered this already. They're going to be adapting X-Men with the *scale* it has in the comics. So as opposed to keeping everything super grounded, it'll touch on the things that the FoX-Men didn't want to work with. Stuff like Asteroid M, comic-accurate Kitty Pryde Jubilee and Emma Frost, Genosha and walking-island Krakoa, the Shadow King and how he haunts Storm, subsidiary teams the Morlocks and the Hellions to illustrate how bad anti-mutant hysteria gets, the Shi'Ar Empire and their ties to Xavier and the Phoenix Force, also *Mojoworld* if they ever decide to explore it instead of just having Shatterstar pop in and calling it a day.

Not all of this will make it in, but the MCU's X-Men will be facing much more legitimate world-ending threats on a regular basis like the Avengers and the Fantastic Four do. The Sentinels alone would be great as consistent villains because the FOX movies never even touched on the fact that they go sentient, nor the existence of Master Mold which keeps churning out an endless supply of robots, or the future Sentinel model *Nimrod* (Nimrod was apparently the inspo for Sentinel Mk X from DOFP, but dear god what a downgrade of a redesign if that's true). You can do a lot with that storyline for the sheer fact that a guy who doesn't actually hate mutants made the Sentinels, and his work only gets appropriated by bigots and psychopaths with far worse grudges to settle.

Tonga-Tonga2025-10-16 11:07

I dont know about all the others, but Storm can be done so much better, from what I remember she barely had any character development, which is ironic considering she is one of the most developed heroines in all of comic books due to Claremonte absolutely loving her.

Disney is sitting on a goldmine when it comes to storm anyways, she has everything Disney wanted with Ms. Marvel, and she has the comic book history to help her adapt to the movies.

>And more importantly, I don't think generally audiences will either. Like they already seen all this stuff before, what could Marvel possibly do?

Same could be said with Spider-man, batman, heck all of marvel and DC in general. All these characters have been done to death, and yet when spider-man or batman have a new movie people flock to them, it all depends on what the writers/directors choose to focus on really, you could focus on the team aspect(Fox didnt do this), you could focus on Cyclops and his struggles with leading such a culturally diversed team(i.e Collosus and Ororo could have some differences due to being from Kenya and Russia and Cyclops has to help them work together), they could even change the status quo and instead have Mutant rights already in place and the X-men are there to protect the rights they just gained.

there are a lot of things they could do, heck they could even keep the status quo and copy any one of the X-mens most popular stories verbatim and people will flock to them as the X-men are perhaps more important than ever due to the political climate we are in.

Basically: They can do so much with the X-men. Ranging from focusing on things the fox movies didnt, to simply copying one of the many X-men plots and transitioning it to the big screens.

tecpaocelotl12025-10-16 11:17

There's different angles and universes to go with.

I think maybe go slow with them. Have magneto and Xavier intro movie before we even get xmen since I feel like fox movies usually tried to rush the stories in their films. Plus them pretty young, we could get different clases of xmen throughout the decades unlike the fox films that just threw xmens without understanding the context and how they fit in the team.