If Thanos had died on Titan before ever starting his search for the Infinity Stones, what would the present MCU look like?

I was thinking about this recently, how much of the first three phases of the MCU were either directly or indirectly caused by Thanos.

Things like him sending Loki to Earth leading to the formation of the Avengers is obvious. But Thanos giving Loki the scepter is what then led to Loki losing it on Earth, Hydra creating Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, Tony making Ultron and Vision, and eventually Civil War.

Or the fact that Loki was captured and brought back to Asgard leading to him taking over as Odin and Hela escaping.

Or even the formation of the Guardians of the Galaxy only happening because Thanos had sent Ronan to get the Power Stone, and Ego only finding out about Peter being his son because of him holding the Power Stone.

Without Thanos some things would still happen. Everything before The Avengers would stay the same on Earth Hydra would still be part of Shield, Stephen Strange would still get in the car crash and eventually become Sorcerer Supreme, Scott Lang would still become Ant-Man, the Convergence would still happen.

I'm curious what else would be different. Would the Avengers ever form at all?

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AnySpirit6482025-10-15 15:37

They would be farmers and bakers imo

DannyHewson2025-10-15 15:37

In Iron Man 3, Tony doesn't have the dozens of specialised suits, and there's a good chance he has no multi-part MK42. Quite possible that he doesn't survive the attack on the house, or that he's left with ONLY the MK42.

Peter Parker does become Spider-Man, but there's no civil war, and he never gets the Stark tech suits, becomes an avenger, or encounters Mysterio. Vulture never turns to crime. The multiverse incident never happens, May lives, and no one forgets him. Continues to be a fairly low tech friendly neighbourhood spiderman.

clocktickmakemecrazy2025-10-15 15:52

I think Tony would've still made the other suits. He's an inventor, a mechanic, he will still love building new and newer and even newer tech. If Iron Man 2 still happens, then he will definitely want some support when he or Rhodey are indisposed. Maybe Ultron also happens, not him going murderous villain but, actually a suit of armour around the world. You can see even in the first Avengers, he's already made the suit deployment system without even having known Loki's threat.

redjedi1822025-10-15 15:48

Without outside threats people grow jealous of wakandas resources and pretty soon there is a war for them.

JoshTheBard2025-10-15 15:51

Thor said that SHEILD experimenting with the Tesseract was a signal to the Universe that Earth was ready for a higher form of war. The Collector was also after the Infinity Stones. So I assume probably what would have happened was Hydra would have taken over the world and immediately had to fight off an Alien Invasion before Dormomu ate the Earth because Hydra assassinated Dr. Strange before he became a Sorcerer.

clocktickmakemecrazy2025-10-15 16:02

If Thanos didn't search for the stones, someone else would have taken his place. He's not the only one with the knowledge of the stones. In Thor 2, when the Warriors 3 and Lady Sif bring the Aether to the Collector, he says 'One down, Five to go', so he knows about it, and is maybe even looking for them, just may not enough firepower in him to go crusading for them.

PapaBliss20072025-10-15 16:13

Tiamut would have not been stopped by the Eternals so Earth would no longer exist.

ContentAssumption2042025-10-15 16:21

Why would he not have been stopped without Thanos?

PapaBliss20072025-10-15 17:24

Timing. There's a theory that if the emergence happens earlier it wouldn't have been stopped. It ties the emergence to the population so if Thanos hadn't snap 1/2 out of existence Tiamut would have emerged sooner before the Eternals were prepared.

username116112025-10-15 17:19

Disagree.

The actual timeline is irrelevant to the Eternals movie events. The events of Eternals still could have happened easily 5 years prior with no mention of Thanos and there’s no real reason it would play out any differently.

ContentAssumption2042025-10-15 16:27

Fury seemed to be putting together the Avengers before he even knew Thanos, the Chitauri, or Loki, existed so idk, maybe he gets that going.

I don’t really understand what it is he expects them to do though.

Stormik2025-10-16 11:59

Nothing would be different cause Thanos is inevitable.