Fate of Loki
No one actually knows what will happen with any of the characters. For me Loki had the perfect story in the mcu, exploring themes all very relevant to my life journey so I kind of "trust" how the story unfolds from now on.
If I could pick, post doomsday and secret wars, I would love to have a young Loki iteration of the character that can mix up with the young avengers and therefore see a Loki with a completely different upbringing, a character that is not so formed by trauma and therefore flourishes to become something completely different than the classic Loki we know.
As for Loki Tom Hiddleston, I've no idea. I don't quite see how he can be removed from where he is right now since removing him from where he is = removing the "heart" of Yggrasil = extinction of all of reality. It seems strange that some people are theorising how he's gone be who Doom pops first as a way to establish his power to the audience and whatnot though if that is the case, it's gonna be one brutal showdown for sure plus what better character to die tragically and what better actor to portray it.
What do you want to see from the character, what do you think we'll get to see?
If I could pick, post doomsday and secret wars, I would love to have a young Loki iteration of the character that can mix up with the young avengers and therefore see a Loki with a completely different upbringing, a character that is not so formed by trauma and therefore flourishes to become something completely different than the classic Loki we know.
As for Loki Tom Hiddleston, I've no idea. I don't quite see how he can be removed from where he is right now since removing him from where he is = removing the "heart" of Yggrasil = extinction of all of reality. It seems strange that some people are theorising how he's gone be who Doom pops first as a way to establish his power to the audience and whatnot though if that is the case, it's gonna be one brutal showdown for sure plus what better character to die tragically and what better actor to portray it.
What do you want to see from the character, what do you think we'll get to see?
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I think Thor is gonna die anyway though, so Secret Wars could be Loki on a revenge arc, where he meets a variant Thor, and together they die in battle in total Asgardian style….after Loki learns to honor original Thor’s memory not through vengeance but through helping to save the multiverse once again…becoming a real “avenger”
Then I think Thor 5 could have the originals of both characters reunited in Valhalla for an adventure through all the afterlife realms, ending with them restoring Asgard and getting that happy ending
That sounds like a really interesting concept for them to do after Secret Wars, and the actor for Kid Loki was really good.
He’s filled with glorious purpose on a throne no one will ever know about, that IS his perfect ending. It already happened.
Let’s focus on landing the other 50 planes in this movie and let the finished plots stay finished.
He makes an appearance and helps the heroes (probably Thor) realize what’s at stake and how they need to proceed without actually being there or giving up the throne for no reason? Cool.
He gives up his purpose to randomly save a single variant of his brother in a single timeline in some stupid sacrifice that ultimately doesn’t matter or make sense after his Loki series arc? Not cool, also way too similar to Infinity War.
First off, no evidence at all that they’re “going to shoehorn as many stars into a movie as possible.” The only confirmed cast is the 27 in the chairs video and exactly 2 additional people. Infinity war had around 40 characters total for comparison.
>He makes an appearance and helps the heroes (probably Thor) realize what’s at stake and how they need to proceed without actually being there or giving up the throne for no reason? Cool.
How do you think Doom gets control of the multiverse without getting control of the multiverse, hmm?
>He gives up his purpose to randomly save a single variant of his brother in a single timeline
It’s not just a random variant of his brother. That is *his* Thor that he grew up with and shared his entire past with. variant Loki and original Loki were the same person until 2012. variant Loki never met the variant Thor created in 2012 because that timeline got pruned. Our Thor is variant Loki’s Thor
>in some stupid sacrifice that ultimately doesn’t matter or make sense after his Loki series arc?
It shows that even after ascending to true godhood, he’s still a person with feelings that can be exploited. Doesn’t that make for a more compelling character than some lame robot who’s above personal feelings?
>Not cool, also way too similar to Infinity War.
It’s the same character we saw in infinity war, getting to the same destination (choosing his brother over all of existence) but after going down a completely different path. It’s cyclical and mythic totally befitting of these ancient, divine god characters.
Gosh idk, maybe the multiverse is being torn apart by travelers and time shenanigans, and instead of “controlling” the multiverse, he finds a new source of energy/matter creation, perhaps in the form of someone’s child, who has already been sought after by Galactus for their ability to create energy, and Doom uses this being to put together a hodge podge of societies in a small collection of wildly different realities.
Then idk, maybe the heroes realize something is wrong and they band together to “free” the created mini-multiverse and let things happen naturally instead of being controlled by someone claiming to be a god emperor.
Gosh, you could use that set up to tell all types of stories. You could probably even do a follow up movie about some sort of… oh I don’t know, *secret wars* that are being waged in this new and strange battleground of reality.
> It shows that even after ascending to true godhood, he’s still a person with feelings that can be exploited. Doesn’t that make for a more compelling character than some lame robot who’s above personal feelings?
The entire point of Loki was that true godhood is a burden, not a joyful throne of happiness and praise and perfection to be used for personal gain or glory. Loki was never ready to accept that until the end of his series. If he accepts that and then immediately says, “you know what, I think I’ll go back to being selfish and saving my personal favorites instead”, then ya, I think they dropped the ball.
Then again, everyone LOVED MoM when the scarlet witch had the exact same type of growth followed by ungrowth. They’re probably looking to recreate that huge success frame by frame again, you’re right.
How are there any stakes *at all* with this scenario? It’s not really much of a “doomsday” if we’re saying “oh Doom is just making his own crazy little multiverse…but the *actual* multiverse? No worries, that’s all totally fine and not in any danger at all!”
And for your second point, Loki making this choice would not be “ungrowth” it would be adding *depth and complexity* to a character that would otherwise be entirely plateaued.
again, you really think a robot with no feelings is more compelling than a literal *god of time* who is still, deep down, hopelessly beholden to his *very human* feelings?
Also, as I said, with this scenario, Loki makes the exact same choice his other self made, but coming from a completely different angle and after having an entirely different set of experiences.
Loki is a character from mythology. Mythology is built on tragic cycles, destiny, inevitability, and unbreakable connections. It absolutely fits with the conception, scale, themes, and disposition of the character to go this route.
He ascends to godhood, seemingly the highest anyone could ever go, but still isn’t immune to tragedy, setback, and downfall. If anything, it will become an even more incredible, emotional, and moving kind of growth to see him claw his way back up.