Why did Marvel Zombies took place during Infinity War and Endgame?

Why did Marvel specifically choose those events to start the zombie apocalypse?

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SilverSkywalkerSaber2025-10-14 00:44

Thanos' arrival was pretty much a fixed point in the timeline since the Zombie Virus impacted none of the cosmic events.

Shaisabrec2025-10-14 07:03

But why would he go to wakanda if the mind stone was not there to begin with

AllosaurusThe2nd2025-10-14 07:42

He saw it in a dream, I guess…

jam112492025-10-14 07:52

If he had enough intel to track down Vision in Edinburgh in the real Infinity War, it doesn't seem too much of a stretch for him to have known that the mind stone was making its way to Wakanda in Zombies.

AlienHooker2025-10-14 14:51

Wakana's whole thing was secrecy and hiding it's assets up until recently

jam112492025-10-14 14:56

He would have been tracking Vision long before the mind stone made it to Wakanda in Zombies though, just like in infinity war. I'd also guess that being souped up on 5 infinity stones by then gave him access to a few more tools in tracking down the last one.

BucketHerro2025-10-14 08:22

He had the time stone even before Maw and Cull made it to Earth. There was no reason for Thanos to send them there.

Just gotta take the story for how it is.

MajorNoodles2025-10-14 08:44

There was also zero reason for zombie Tony to be chilling with Zombie Strange and Wong

Secret_Warrior_30002025-10-17 02:12

I mean technically there's no reason for any zombie character to be hanging out with any other zombie character

MajorNoodles2025-10-17 05:15

Right. But the zombies clearly have some memories from their human lives that drive their behavior. There is zero reason for Tony to be drawn to Strange since the catalyst for their meeting was Bruce's arrival back on Earth, which happened after the zombies got together.

jmgomes12025-10-15 07:33

And how did he find Strange and get the time stone, how is Xandar blocking off earth is Thanos “decimated Xandar” to get the power stone, how did just the power stone disintegrate Stormbreaker when all 6 stones couldn’t in IW, who cares?

Shaisabrec2025-10-15 07:38

Wdym who cares, those are all actual valid reasons to criticize the show. The continuity they have should be set in stone up until the point where the split in the timeline happens. None of it makes sense.

jmgomes12025-10-15 07:40

Oh, I was being sarcastic about the who cares part, there’s tons wrong with the show, I could go on for a while. Here I just tried to stick to the Thanos and stones of it all.

watze972025-10-17 06:20

Watch the what if zombie episode from what if,you ll get the answer

pkjoan2025-10-14 10:53

But how is the Nova Corp around then?

Nicol2222025-10-14 12:16

I would think Captain marvel (somehow) said something, which means Fury had already paged her before the snap since in movie he did it post snap. But a better question. How did captain marvel turn? Nothing should’ve been able to bite her it feels like something Wanda would’ve had to do directly somehow. Like feed her bad meat disguised or something.

FblthpphtlbF2025-10-14 15:00

>Like feed her bad meat disguised as something

Luckily there is precedent for exactly that in the series lol

Willemboom002025-10-14 16:06

If eating bad meat is enough it's possible she splattered a few zombies and got enough blood/viscera in her to turn, it's also possible that antman or wasp shrunk down and bit her from the inside or some other vulnerable spot. I agree that it would have been better to see her get infected but they obviously had very little time and showing an infection scene for her was probably too much, especially if they intended for an action sequence for it.

Petrichor022025-10-14 16:10

The simplest explanation would just be that they rebuilt themselves over the course of 5 years.

But it is technically possible that the branching point occurs earlier in the timeline than Ant-Man and the Wasp explaining how the virus came to be in the Quantum Realm and/or how Janet ended up infected with it which may have butterfly-effected things elsewhere in the universe. And therefore Thanos may have gotten the Power Stone without destroying Xandar.

Equal-Ad-27102025-10-15 20:24

Plus he decimated Xandar, it’s not stated he went across the universe Annihilating the Corp

YoungJack232025-10-15 02:52

What's weird is the Nova corps showing up to quarantine earth in Zombies, since in the MCU proper Thanos decimated Xandar the week before.

Equal-Ad-27102025-10-15 20:23

It still kills me he’s infected off screen though

Like if they couldn’t infect Hulk how did they get him and Cull

PayneTrain1819992025-10-14 00:44

So they can have Zombie Thanos and the Infinity Stones to play with, and to include all the pre- and post-Endgame characters.

ravenrawen2025-10-14 14:28

Success from success.

No-Thought75712025-10-14 17:22

Success Inception!

TurdFerguson101002025-10-15 00:58

Succession

Then_Finding57352025-10-16 03:26

Sucception

Spikedlemonade32025-10-14 15:07

Lol depended on the success from a movie instead of doing it from the comics inspiration?

Bi0H4ZRD2025-10-14 15:42

Appealing to an existing audience rather than making an adaptation from the comics

RuafaolGaiscioch2025-10-14 16:04

Yes? All these spinoff shows are more based in the MCU than in their comic origins.

that_one_bun2025-10-14 17:00

I doubt most MCU fans would be ok watxhing spiderman chomping down on people or actual Peter getting his insides blown out by sandman.

But damn what I would do an adaptation from the comics.

veemonjosh2025-10-14 18:48

The point of the What If animated series was to show splintered timelines from the main MCU. Marvel Zombies was a continuation of that episode.

Citizen_Kong2025-10-15 11:46

And the branch off of Infinity War because that was the Status Quo the writers of What If..? got to work with.

Equal-Ad-27102025-10-15 20:23

Plus it’s a big moment where all the Avengers are divided and where the universe got redefined

DaniOverHere2025-10-16 00:54

It’s all about the Funkos, babyyyy!

threemo2025-10-14 00:44

Why not

aaiceman2025-10-14 00:45

My take: It’s a launching point where a good majority of the heros referenced have some history and have been active. It gives a good reason why the non earth based characters are there and get swept up in the mix.

Romnonaldao2025-10-14 00:49

Infinity war did not start the zombies

Hank Pym rescuing a zombie Janet caused the apocalypse. It just happens very close to Infinity War

AllosaurusThe2nd2025-10-14 07:43

Like, literally a week or two, before, lol

Romnonaldao2025-10-14 07:43

Correct

Easy_Mechanic_97872025-10-14 17:44

Not to mention that the blip happened at the same time Antman was in the quantum realm.

Romnonaldao2025-10-15 02:25

Yes, but that scene where he was in the quantum realm was 2 weeks after Janet was rescued

NrFive2025-10-14 07:43

Wait what?!

Edit:

Sup with downvotes?

Romnonaldao2025-10-14 07:44

What If? Season 1, episode 5

The zombie virus came from Janet when hank rescued her at the end of Ant-Man and the Wasp. You see the chaos coming from the Pym lab during the Shang-Chi sequence

Bross932025-10-14 11:47

Is that seeing carried over in the standalone zombies show?

Sensitive_Minimum_522025-10-14 12:03

Yes they made a series out of episode and you only come to know about it in the 4th episode when they introduce the same spidey

CaptHayfever2025-10-14 20:30

Spidey shows up in the 3rd episode. But it was pitched that way all along.

That's why Zombies uses the What If animation style, too, when none of the other animated shows do.

NrFive2025-10-14 12:07

Checking it now! Completely forgot!

Edit:

Holy hell. That episode was intense! Thank you for the reminder :)

TheAgmis2025-10-14 00:49

What If….Zombies episode. Watch it. Explains it in seconds

CaledonianWarrior2025-10-14 13:53

I think OP meant why did the writers choose that period to set Zombies at as opposed to any other time in the mainline MCU. But IW is arguably the best time to set Zombies at in regards to how connected all the characters were at the time.

I remember someone suggested setting Zombies at the start of Civil War when the Avengers are trying to stop Crossbones from stealing that bioweapon vial in Lagos, with the bioweapon in question turning folk into zombies. Personally I quite liked that idea, even if the characters in the MCU at the time aren't as connected as later on.

TheDungeonCrawler2025-10-14 18:28

It also gives us a good origin location for the virus. Anywhere else on Earth is too well known of a space. Why didn't this happen in the original timeline and all that. But the quantum realm is still relatively unknown space and all sorts of weird shit can happen there. If they want to set it anywhere else, it can pretty much only be set during Quantumania, Ant-Man 1, or Endgame since there aren't a lot of other good ways to introduce the virus in the established MCU Infinity Saga.

Multiversaken2025-10-14 00:52

There's still a grammar error. 'took' instead of 'take'.

Flashy-Ad91292025-10-14 00:52

I don’t wanna delete it and re-repost again 😒

Reddit needs to put a new update where we can edit the post

Multiversaken2025-10-14 00:59

Totally agree. It's been an annoyance for a long time and should be fixed. And sorry, didn't mean to sound nitpicky.

Flashy-Ad91292025-10-14 01:01

It's fine

cleverersauce42025-10-14 16:42

No, it is not.

Kriff2025-10-14 10:51

I don’t think you’re nitpicking. This particular grammatical error is spreading all over, so pointing it out is more of a service at this point.

InevitableWeight3142025-10-14 00:53

Well Bruce Banner’s arrival to Earth is a perfect moment to introduce the zombies world to the audience for one

LADYBIRD_HILL2025-10-14 00:53

Because it was the point in the timeline that had the most active heroes. The original what if episode came out not long after endgame came out anyways.

_Levitated_Shield_2025-10-14 00:58

Setting it during the biggest event of the entire Infinity Saga was actually really genius. There's also not really a whole lot of scenarios where a zombie virus could naturally fit.

Borosdrunkard2025-10-14 01:01

Season 1 of "What If?" cared a lot about making sure the audience knew who we were seeing & what was going on. Infinity War was popular, so it ticked a lot of boxes. Setting it afterward also cuts the number of 'cannonically' useable characters (no Iron Man, Captain America, Vision, Thanos, Black Order etc.).

Flashy-Ad91292025-10-14 01:03

Half the Black Order

TheJohn2952025-10-14 01:06

It was a quantum event that occurred during Antman 2, which is just before Thanos attacks Earth. It was Janet that caught the virus in the quantum realm and brought it back to earth via Hank Pym.

TheDungeonCrawler2025-10-14 18:31

Seeing as they built a new Quantum Tunnel just before Thanos' invasion and there's a whole epilogue montage after the main events of Ant Man 2, it's probably weeks at the *least* before Thanos. This also gives the virus a lot of time to spread, which is good considering how much it seems to have spread in the What If episode, so I'd guess it's been at least a month since the virus was introduced to Earth.

Pretend-Meaning-15362025-10-14 05:42

Probably so they could include phase 4 and 5 characters

OblivionArts2025-10-14 07:34

Because the actual inciting incident was ant man 2 in what if, which took place before infinity war

Equal-Ad-27102025-10-15 20:25

I kind of wish it tied into that virus from Civil War tho

iamChickeNugget2025-10-14 08:12

Watch the shows where it shows what happened. Istg people actually never watch anything, then ask useless questions.

FeralPsychopath2025-10-14 08:40

Cause it’s cool

Movieguy4442025-10-14 09:23

the zombie virus only came Because Hank pyms wife got infected with the virus during her time in the quantum realm so when she got rescued which was around the time from infinity war this shit happend (like in ant man 2)

Mufti_Menk2025-10-14 10:17

Why not?

BiscuitsAndMilk02025-10-14 10:19

Because AntMan and The Wasp happened weeks maybe days before Infinity War and the events of Ant Man and The Wasp was the catalyst to the zombie outbreak in that universe.

0finifish2025-10-14 11:20

I'd say the Marvel Zombies universe is very close to 616, the only difference was the zombie virus spreading on Earth specifically. That means other events outside of Earth, and up until Infinity War (technically the end of Ant Man & The Wasp) are pretty much the same. The show is an alternative to End Game in that universe

Shubh_16122025-10-14 11:23

Most number of active superheroes

MrJohnnyDrama2025-10-14 12:15

Chadwick is dead and they don’t have it in them to recast.

they haven’t introduced the X-men or Fantastic Four to the MCU yet.

They don’t have the Spider-man properties as a whole.

Sentry hasn’t been established in the wider universe yet.

No way we’d get Ash Williams.

Etc.

Carouselcolours2025-10-14 12:32

The initial episode that aired in What If... Was storyboarded just after those films came out, and then the episode ended with Thanos in Wakanda. So that time point was set no matter what.

The full Zombies series was announced and began production during the pandemic. 2021 was around when they recorded vocals (Elizabeth Olsen said she recorded at home due to lockdowns.)

When they were at that point in releases, I believe they were probably just finishing up on Moon Knight since they had Khonshu's voice actor throw some additional lines in for Zombies. Which means they had no other reference point to refer to, world wise, beyond that.

PenonX2025-10-14 12:49

Because Ant Man and the Wasp (i.e. Janet coming back, which starts the zombie virus outbreak) occurs around the same time.

btotherad2025-10-14 12:57

If bad grammar was the reason for a repost, do it again because you should’ve used “take” instead of “took”.

Flashy-Ad91292025-10-14 14:52

I'm not deleting and re-repost this again 😒

Hot-Flight60892025-10-14 12:59

Because of the origin of the zombie virus being related to Ant-Man and the Wasp's plot and that movie taking place right around infinity war

JoshTheBard2025-10-14 13:05

Why not?

Western-Chart-67192025-10-14 13:16

Probably because that timeline already had all the heroes, chaos and global stakes. It made the zombie outbreak feel huge and let Marvel twist familiar Infinity War moments in a darker way.

Drayko_Sanbar2025-10-14 13:19

I assume it was largely because it let them have Bruce Banner unknowingly land in the middle of things. That way, you have a protagonist who needs the same things explained to them that the audience does.

Clear_Bit_2152025-10-14 13:33

Probably because when the what if came out infinity war was still super popular.

EFCFrost2025-10-14 13:41

“Why did Marvel Zombies *take* place during Infinity War and Engame?”

Fixed that for ya.

Flashy-Ad91292025-10-14 14:52

I'm not deleting and re-repost this again 😒

EverythingGeek2025-10-14 13:58

why "did it took place"?

chickenkebaap2025-10-14 14:06

Hank Pym rescued Janet close to the beginning of the Infinity War in the main timeline.

The same happened in the zombieverse and that’s why it takes place during the infinity war.

yaassensei2025-10-14 14:46

Isn't that the most obvious option?

Fawqueue2025-10-14 14:46

Endgame is the most successful fun in the MCU and the height of its popularity. Marvel's one regret is that they couldn't make Kamala Khan the central protagonist of the story like they do for everything else. Marvel Zombies helped them correct that error in a way.

electrorazor2025-10-14 15:07

Because the virus started due to an alternate version of Antman and the Wasp. Which is canonically right before Infinity War:

WesternCzar2025-10-14 15:18

Aura.

doublethink_19842025-10-14 15:24

Less locations since the most characters are centralized in the fewest places at this time

Vauxlia2025-10-14 15:28

*take

fafarmer252025-10-14 15:44

Antman and Hank Pym saved Janet from the Quantum realm days or weeks before Infinity War. Its really not that far from the timeline when Janet infected everyone with the Virus.

If you're asking why those timeline. Because of Quantum, when they say quantum, you don't need to explain it. Hence, Quantum Virus.

repalec2025-10-14 16:21

Because (per the What If? episode that originated the eventual series) in this universe the zombie virus came from the Quantum Realm. In the Zombies universe, what came back from the Quantum Realm when Hank, Scott, and Hope searched for her was the first zombie, and the contagion spread from there.

cleverersauce42025-10-14 16:41

Don't worry about your grammar, it's your spelling that needs work.

Flashy-Ad91292025-10-14 20:51

I wish I can edit this since there's no option for that

Meizas2025-10-14 17:03

Because the virus got out when they saved Janet from the quantum realm

Accomplished-Fun-722025-10-14 17:44

It’s *What If* logic so it’s for the fans. If one event is canon in that universe, fans will kinda know what battles are ahead. Then it’s easier to piece together how the storyline event change in that universe altered from our universe

spderweb2025-10-14 17:47

Different universe. Different chain of events to get characters into position.

Adorable-Bit68162025-10-14 17:48

So this is a repost cos of a grammar error but there's a grammar error on this one?

Damiandroid2025-10-14 17:50

In the comics, the virus was unleashed from Reed Richards venturing into other dimensions.

The closest thing the MCU had done to that (at the time of What If Season 1) was Scott Lang venturing into the Quantum Realm. That took place a little before the events of Infinity War.

So by the time infinity war events start to take place, we get to follow Bruce as a newcomer to this altered world

nocauze2025-10-14 18:00

Because it’s their hypest moment, they’ve been trying to re-create that high for _years_. So they’ll always go back to it.

Rayyan__212025-10-14 18:15

well all characters were in their PRIME?
Thor was in his absolute best, Iron Man was in his absolute best with the Mark 50 Bleeding Edge, Cap had the dual vibranium shields, Spider-Man was on his verge to becoming one of the mainline heroes for the Avengers

i havent seen the Zombies yet as i do have exams :( how was it though?

Flashy-Ad91292025-10-14 19:37

Very enjoyable, gory, brutal, sometimes funny, and really sad seeing our favorite heroes and villains get killed or turned to zombies

Blade was awesome and Spider-Man too

Kamala, Kate, and Riri's friendship is something I want to see happen in the main universe

Rayyan__212025-10-14 19:53

aw thank you mate! :D
i see, thanks for the heads up, seems excitiing, ima give it a watch asap after my exams! :D

have a fantastiic day ahead!

ABC_Dildos_Inc2025-10-14 18:21

Because it was announced 4 years ago and was likely already under production.

Papa_Snail2025-10-14 18:38

Highest amount of popular active characters in the series.

What do people watch this kind of stuff for? To see what happens to their character.

DarthYhonas2025-10-14 19:00

Probably nostalgia bait

Riley__642025-10-14 20:06

Because they chose to have the zombie virus be of quantum origin and antman and the wasp just so happens to be happening at basically the same time as infinity war.

It’s also a good point to pick because it easily loops in all other heroes, infinity war is the time in which basically every character interacts and it opens up the door for the new heroes who only appear after endgame to easily show up.

kxngcass2025-10-14 22:08

How the hell did zombies manage to turn thanos anyway? Even if he was bit (assuming they somehow get through his skin) couldnt he just make it so he..wasn’t?

DramaJust2025-10-14 23:34

My take : Marvel Zombies WAS that universe's ENDGAME

ShadesOfTheDead2025-10-15 05:33

That was literally the case.

M_Wizard8102025-10-15 02:22

Because antman and wasp took place at the same time as infinity war, and that’s what started the apocalypse

YamOk532025-10-15 04:33

Why not?

Confident-Fee-87102025-10-15 13:21

What I wanna know is how the flip did iron Man in the nano suit get infected and how did

IC_2282025-10-15 14:05

They needed someone (human) to be the guy who gets thrown into chaos and completely clueless as to what’s going on. Banner fit that requirement

RafOfAllTrades2025-10-15 19:27

cuz

Thunder_Cap2025-10-16 03:03

I am curious how the Nova Corps is able to maintain a perimeter around Earth to keep anything from leaving when this is clearly after Thanos got the power stone, which he had to decimate Xandar and the Nova Corps to get. Anyone got insight?

Adept_Rest_60882025-10-16 08:31

realistically they chose it so they could have as many characters present as possible. canonically though it started because Janet Van Dyme came back from the quantum realm with a zombie virus, makes sense since at the time we didnt have a lot of info on the quantum realm so anything was possible

Secret_Warrior_30002025-10-17 02:06

What If?... Zombies! starts during Infinity War because Ant-Man the Wasp takes place shortly before Infinity War. We get the backstory that when they brought Janet Van Dyne back from the quantum realm she had the zombie virus. And since Ant-Man and the Wasp (I believe) doesn't even take place a full year before Infinity War that is why they chose to start the episode during Infinity War.

The only thing I'm confused about is how Thanos got the Time Stone. But I think when Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian didn't return with the time stone Thanos chose to go down to earth himself and that's how he got it before turning into a Zombie.

And then Marvel Zombies takes place after Edgame because the main characters are mostly characters introduced after Phase 3

Puzzled-Ad-44552025-10-17 12:06

It starts with the rescue of Janet Van Dyne, but in this world she got a disease in the quantum realm, and it spread when they returned, so thats why