VisionQuest might be to Agent Carter, what Echo was to the Netflix Shows

What I mean by this is that Echo was the catalyst for Daredevil and by extension the other Netflix shows, to be officially confirmed as canon, as before that point, they were in a state of Schrödinger's Canon, where they were canon until confirmed otherwise. Winderbaum confirmed in an interview during Echo press that Daredevil (and by extension all of the Netflix shows) were Sacred Timeline. VisionQuest features the return of James D'Arcy as a version of J.A.R.V.I.S., and he played the human Edwin Jarvis in Agent Carter. VisionQuest might be to Agent Carter what Echo was to Daredevil. I kind of hoped that it would be the Echo to Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. with the rumored connection, and I'm hoping LMD Coulson or AIDA are part of the show's AI/Robot characters, but it could be the Echo to both. Canon aside, VisionQuest seems really promising, and I also love how they're keeping the name merging thing that WandaVision did with VisionQuest.

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ihatebrooms2025-10-13 03:33

> I kind of hoped that it would be the Echo to Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. with the rumored connection, and I'm hoping LMD Coulson or AIDA are part of the show's Al/Robot characters

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Effective-Fondant-162025-10-13 03:56

Disney is not gonna spend money de-aging Clark Gregg again. We should bring AoS back into MCU with some of the younger cast, most of whom didn’t do much since the show ended, but we need to let Gregg rest.

ihatebrooms2025-10-13 04:00

> We should bring AoS back [sic] into MCU

No.

Nippy_Hades2025-10-13 05:25

He can rest in 27 years.

DigificWriter2025-10-13 04:35

Yeah, No. Re-using James D'Arcy in VisionQuest isn't automatically going to re-Canonize Agent Carter any more than using him in Endgame did (it didn't, BTW).

marvelcomics222025-10-13 04:53

Agent Carter is Schrödinger's Canon, so you can't say it's not canon.

DigificWriter2025-10-13 05:00

"Agent Carter is Schrödinger's Canon"

"That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works".

marvelcomics222025-10-13 05:05

So, you tell me. Why isn't Agent Carter canon?

DigificWriter2025-10-13 05:11

Because Marvel Studios decided that it isn't.

If you want a different answer, the way it depicts the Black Widow program is incompatible with how the Black Widow movie depicts said program.

marvelcomics222025-10-13 05:23

Marvel Studios never said that, you're making things up, and the Black Widow program would have obviously changed between the 1940s and the 1980s.

DigificWriter2025-10-13 06:01

"Marvel Studios never said that"

I've already demonstrated (repeatedly) that they have in fact said that, but it's clear at this point that you're going to continue metaphorically plugging your ears whilst repeatedly chanting "La la la I can't hear you" over and over rather than accept the truth no matter how many times it's presented to you.

marvelcomics222025-10-13 06:15

Give me a quote where a Marvel Studios executive states that Agent Carter is not canon.

DigificWriter2025-10-13 06:35

"Give me a quote where a Marvel Studios executive states that Agent Carter is not canon"

I already have... several times.

marvelcomics222025-10-13 06:38

Oh, you mean this one:

>Well, I’ll tell you this, and put it to you like this. It’s exciting for me to think about how to square those ABC shows with the canon. That, to me, if you know me and the way my brain works, that is fun territory to imagine.

\- Brad Winderbaum

He avoided the question. That quote does not contain a statement on the canon status of Agent Carter (an ABC show). He says that it is interesting to fit those into the canon. That is not a 'it's not canon' or an 'it is canon', that is 'canon is interesting'. I'll need a better quote.

Grayx_28872025-10-13 05:25

I don't know. I mean, from what I am hearing with the plot of *"VisionQuest."* Everything that is happening in the show is all inside the White Vision's mind. It's gonna be like the Marvel Studios' equivalent to the Matrix. As for Echo being what it is from the Marvel Netflix shows. No. Just no. The Netflix shows were just meant to be their own thing. They had no intention of giving the Defenders any continuations after the original Daredevil series ended in its third season. They only got intregrated into the MCU because of fan demand and well... now, we are just going to see completely different versions of the Marvel characters from the Netflix shows, but they are still played by their original actors, and whatever we got from the original Netflix shows which each individual characters being introduced, yeah... most of their arcs are going to be retconned into the 616 universe.

I have seen this happen with Vanessa Fisk's character in Daredevil: Born Again. So, I won't be surprised if any other characters from Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist started to act differently or if their previous arcs started to face a retcon by the writers.

marvelcomics222025-10-13 05:27

The Netflix shows were made as a part of the MCU and were always that way, and they are entirely canon. Vanessa Fisk was the same character, and she wasn't acting particularly differently to what we've seen of her in Daredevil.

eagc72025-10-13 06:55

Should be noted that the Netflix shows were "intended" to be set in the MCU, but it was more of a one sided way, in where the Marvel TV division considered them to be canonical, but the film division was iffy about embracing content that wasn't made by them as part of the lore.

Also remember that at the end of Season 3 of DD, Vanessa was embracing Fisk's crime life, Fisk wanted to keep her out of this lifestyle, but she wanted to be part of it and even ordered the death of Agent Nadeem, so Vanessa in BA is not out of character and is consistent with where her character was heading at the end of season 3.

isthatyourpie2025-10-13 12:58

He already played Jarvis in Endgame.

whitepangolin2025-10-13 17:06

Agents of Shield fans on here are their own breed of deluded lol