What do you guys think about people hating on marvel
So I have been following mcu since I was 8 or 10 Y.O and I will still continue to follow marvel. I was really happy when there was a time people used to be hyped up for each and every mcu project. It made me feel real proud. People didn't used to hate mcu like how they do now, we know that since endgame mcu projects were hit and miss. Some were good like loki, some mediocre like she hulk. Kevin feige himself acknowledged that mcu felt like homework. What really makes me sad is when fans say that mcu has lost its charm and whatever.
It makes me think that they most probably just followed mcu because of its hype during infinity war and endgame and now because mcu produced weak and mediocre products they say it like mcu cannot be good again.
It's not like that mcu didn't produced any mediocre content before endgame right? There is antman and the wasp and antman then captain Marvel (which I enjoyed at that moment) and sure might have been other projects too like thor the dark world which was avg. eople may critisize and it's necessary for better quality but blindly hating on marvel now because you didn't like any particular agenda or propoganda is not right imo.
MCUs quality got downward after its shows, some were good and some were just too bad. And then some people hate mcu saying it became M-She-U. Sure there was some projects like that too where mcu tried to give spotlight to women which I don't think is bad but just the way they did it was terrible like replacing the OG avengers with female characters like kate bishop, she hulk, jane foster. I am not saying that they shouldn't bring female characters. All I am saying is make the characters worth watching without nerfing the OG characters in front of them. We liked watching Sylvie, layla, natasha, yelena, captain marvel, gamora, nebula, hope, etc.
Now MCU is trying to be better and their recent projects after Deadpool and wolverine were all good like Agatha, thunderbolts Daredevil, F4, marvel zombies, and even ironheart was avg okish. only exceptional was captain america 4, and some people still get a way to say that it's still not mcu, after endgame mcu projects weren't good, etc etc.
And if you ask them if they watched loki, moonknight, shang chi, eternals, nwh, they will say "yeah and it was the only good thing" it just makes me so mad because then you aren't really following mcu, you are just watching projects which are getting hyped. Being a fan of something, you watch and enjoy that content and it's relative content. You can critisize if the content is bad but will be eager to watch what's next in the slate. If you just watch hyped up projects and skipping other goods in the process that isn't what a fan does.
It makes me sad that people aren't being true to themselves and just hating on things just because others are saying after endgame mcu wasn't the same.
I am sure I will watch wonder man and then I will critisize if it's bad and I will appreciate if it's good.
All those people who are just blindly hating will be the first to say they watched doomsday and it's epic. Atleast that's what I think.
What's your opinion?
It makes me think that they most probably just followed mcu because of its hype during infinity war and endgame and now because mcu produced weak and mediocre products they say it like mcu cannot be good again.
It's not like that mcu didn't produced any mediocre content before endgame right? There is antman and the wasp and antman then captain Marvel (which I enjoyed at that moment) and sure might have been other projects too like thor the dark world which was avg. eople may critisize and it's necessary for better quality but blindly hating on marvel now because you didn't like any particular agenda or propoganda is not right imo.
MCUs quality got downward after its shows, some were good and some were just too bad. And then some people hate mcu saying it became M-She-U. Sure there was some projects like that too where mcu tried to give spotlight to women which I don't think is bad but just the way they did it was terrible like replacing the OG avengers with female characters like kate bishop, she hulk, jane foster. I am not saying that they shouldn't bring female characters. All I am saying is make the characters worth watching without nerfing the OG characters in front of them. We liked watching Sylvie, layla, natasha, yelena, captain marvel, gamora, nebula, hope, etc.
Now MCU is trying to be better and their recent projects after Deadpool and wolverine were all good like Agatha, thunderbolts Daredevil, F4, marvel zombies, and even ironheart was avg okish. only exceptional was captain america 4, and some people still get a way to say that it's still not mcu, after endgame mcu projects weren't good, etc etc.
And if you ask them if they watched loki, moonknight, shang chi, eternals, nwh, they will say "yeah and it was the only good thing" it just makes me so mad because then you aren't really following mcu, you are just watching projects which are getting hyped. Being a fan of something, you watch and enjoy that content and it's relative content. You can critisize if the content is bad but will be eager to watch what's next in the slate. If you just watch hyped up projects and skipping other goods in the process that isn't what a fan does.
It makes me sad that people aren't being true to themselves and just hating on things just because others are saying after endgame mcu wasn't the same.
I am sure I will watch wonder man and then I will critisize if it's bad and I will appreciate if it's good.
All those people who are just blindly hating will be the first to say they watched doomsday and it's epic. Atleast that's what I think.
What's your opinion?
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For the rest, I like them, I watch them, I dislike or like them after watching them, and I move on. That’s all that really matters.
i could care less tbh.
You realize that they never replaced anyone? Both Hawkeyes are partners, She-Hulk is no where near the Hulk in character, role, or tone, and saying Jane Foster replaced Thor is like saying Wasp replaced Ant-Man.
I’ve been a huge fan since the beginning. But the decisions they made post Edngame have were poor.
In the IW Saga not everything was perfect. But at least they were story building. We saw character Growth and we learned to love all the characters.. that’s why endgame is so loved despite not being the best made movie.. it was the perfect ending for that saga.
Post EG they went quantity over quality. They dumped as many characters as fast as they can. There’s no current objective right now. Everything seems scattered, we haven’t seen hero’s like Shang Chi in 4-5 years. They also seem to be going on epicness over quality. Using nostalgia as a way to create hype.
I’m ready for the multiverse to be over so they can start character building again.
Some people liked them before but feel there've been too many of them since their interest in them has dropped. They tend to not like the fact that the movies continue to get made regardless of the quality. These are the people can just hear that a movie is getting made and decide it's bad/more of the same before they even know what it's about.
The you have the "high standards" crowd. They crap on the current Marvel movies because they feel they aren't as great as the previous ones they liked. If every new movie isn't as great as ENDGAME they feel the movie shouldn't have been made.
Then there are those you enjoying hating and since MCU hating is popular at the moment it's a new bandwagon for them to jump on. You can tell these people have never been fans and don't even understand what they are supposed to be hating. These are the people who just chime in with "Marvel sucks!" and that's the extent of their contribution to the discussion.
It's silly to hate or get upset over Marvel movies. There are MCU movies I didn't like and my attitude is "Didn't care for that one, maybe the next one will be better...". I don't walk around or jump on social media mad thinking Disney is trying to rip me off or isn't trying.
I still love the MCU overall, and I’m cautiously optimistic about Doomsday for a lot of reasons, but the truth is I haven’t loved any individual project in the MCU since Infinity War, and the last project i even just *liked* was Spiderman FFH. I also am a big hater of Endgame so that doesn’t help either, I don’t even have the nice bookend to close out the infinity saga.
Obviously I didn’t *intend* to suddenly start hating what the MCU gave me, it just naturally happened. The last MCU film I saw in theaters was Black Widow, which I went into expecting to love because I always loved Natasha. I was *shocked* coming out of that movie how much I hated it, I remember even crying about it.
This happened over and over again with 2021/2022 new MCU releases until finally there was MoM, which was the one that finally convinced me the MCU was fucked….
Sometimes when you really love something it means admitting that it’s not working so that it can start to be repaired. I don’t know what the heck happened at Marvel, but something broke in their overall creative process, because it’s effecting literally everything they’ve made in the past six years and you can just feel it in the air now that it’s totally lost all the cultural relevance it used to have. My God, the MCU is practically *niche* now.