Why is the Netflix Iron Fist so hated?

I’ve recently started watching Iron Fist and just finished the first season but I keep seeing people hate on the show. I personally loved it and thought it was great. If you had to ask me I would say Jessica jones was the worst tbh. I would say daredevil is the best of all with Luke cage and iron fist both being even but Jessica jones was a hard watch.

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Notoriously_So2025-10-12 01:17

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kneeco282025-10-12 01:17

Because it's terrible, cliche, is 80% padding, the action is lifeless, and with a couple of exceptions the cast sucks.

There isn't one thing in there that hasn't been done significantly better in numerous other superhero properties.

This is without even getting into the cultural bankruptcy of the whole thing.

HopperPI2025-10-12 01:17

You put Iron Fist, the story of Danny Rand the immortal iron fist, protector of k’un lun, sworn enemy of the hand, over Jessica Jones? Really? David Tenant alone puts season 1 above anything that isn’t Daredevil.

BatmanForever232025-10-12 01:24

This. I can, while not personally get, at least respect someone finding things to enjoy in Iron First. Calling Jessica Jones S1 the worst boggles the mind, one of the best written and performed TV series that Marvel ever made.

StruggleLumpy69692025-10-12 01:27

Bar episode 7 of Agatha All Along which is one of if not the best single most amazing episodes ever made full stop.

But yeah love for JJ season 1 is a moral signal that I will trust anyone who agrees and think anyone that disagrees needs to be held at a distance for all eternity lol

BatmanForever232025-10-12 10:44

100%, if you think Iron Fist beats JJ idk what to say except I don't trust you lol. And love the shout for AAA episode 7, Patti LuPone was just so amazing in that episode. AAA as a whole is extremely underrated imo - I have it as a top 5 Marvel TV show.

snowhawk042025-10-12 01:40

The OP didn't say Jessica Jones season 1 was the worst. They said

>If you had to ask me I would say **Jessica jones was the worst** tbh. I would say daredevil is the best of all with Luke cage and iron fist both being even but **Jessica jones was a hard watch**.

*Jessica Jones* Season 1 had themes that really turned people off. Season 2 and 3 were nowhere as good as season 1 among those that loved season 1.

uhhh359__y2025-10-12 01:43

Yes, thank you. It’s not a horrible show I would just put the others over it.

EEDDDWWWAARRRD2025-10-12 01:18

I mostly see complaints about the choreography. Personally I always felt more interested in the side characters than Danny. Hell I even enjoyed the random drunken fist user over Danny.

FewWatermelonlesson02025-10-12 01:18

It’s a martial arts show where the main character can’t actually fight. No amount of jerky editing can hide how bad the fights were.

Synth-Pro2025-10-12 01:22

Speaking as someone who doesn't *hate* it, it was definitely very rushed, and it shows. Especially for a series revolving around martial arts, they put zero time into choreographing fight scenes.

And optically, *while I say this as someone who doesn't feel this way,* it's difficult for a large amount of people to *not* see Danny Rand as the White Savior archetype. Historically, there's so much more to the character, but if you aren't well experienced with that history and just have the show to base things off of, they don't do a lot in that show to fight off that perception.

lanwopc2025-10-12 01:22

People wanted a flashy martial arts fighting show and got something of a character based show with occasional fights. It was fine with , I'm not a particularly big martial arts fan so the choreography didn't throw me off.

askingtherealstuff2025-10-12 01:42

People didn’t want a flashy martial arts fighting show just for kicks, people wanted the best martial artist in the verse to be believably good at the thing he was supposed to be good at

And none of the writing or the acting made up for it

VicRamD2025-10-12 01:24

I will say this, I usually don't care about the quality of fights or special effects in movies or series, something that a lot of people say is bad may not affect me at all.

With that said I watched IF expecting to enjoy the fights at least (since I read comments about being a bad series) but my surprise was that it was one of the few instances in my life where battles were so bad edited/made that I couldn't unsee it.

Not only that, unlike Luke Cage or Jessica Jones, I saw the character appear in other media and it always looked cool to me so I was expecting to learn a lot from the IF lore, but I think I learnt more about IF lore in a 12 min video of Cómic Drake than I ever learnt from 10+ hours of this series + Defenders.

StruggleLumpy69692025-10-12 01:25

Danny Rand - good drinking game though, you’ll be pissed by the end of the first episode

MX24192025-10-12 01:40

Danny is one of my fav characters of Marvel and I was super excited with his series announcement. Hyped by the trailer and premise so when as I was watching it you can tell they were missing the mark on his character and journey. I still like the show but it does have flaws. I like the dynamics with his former friends, schoolmate, and Wing but it definitely has lows. S2 is better but I do feel they need to get better writers for Danny. He was way better in his appearance in Luke's show. I want Finn to come back and be given another shot. Give us a Heroes for Hire series. Ohhh JJ a hard watch? Hot take but everybody has their own show that works for them. Like for me Agatha I just don't care for her character so watching her show was hard to get through despite liking magic and that concept being explored more.

askingtherealstuff2025-10-12 01:41

Season one of Jessica Jones was S-Tier

Daredevil dips a bit in the middle but ends as possible the best live action marvel project ever

Luke Cage started amazingly with Cottonmouth and lost a lot when it loved on to other villains

Iron First is an embarrassment and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise

LordDusty2025-10-12 01:53

I thought it was decent, not the best but it wasnt terrible. A fairly entertaining watch with some good performances and moments thrown in. Its definitely the weakest of the Netflix series (getting compared to Daredevil and Jessica Jones is a tough standard to follow) but its considerably better than around half the D+ MCU shows.

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