I love that both the MCU and DCU are giving us projects that are actor turned superperson in a project that's also meta-commentary on the entertainment industry next year
can you guide me in as to what is meta with the clayface project i havent been keeping up with clayface updates that well
M00r3C2025-10-11 20:56
The movie will have some commentary on AI and deepfakes in Hollywood [](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjPucep6ZyQAxXZEFkFHbMTHE4QFnoECB4QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FDCU_%2Fcomments%2F1lh3due%2Fclayface_will_have_some_commentary_on_ai_and%2F&usg=AOvVaw1yTFwOYanrxRTCBpkOG3tk&opi=89978449)
jamesbondswanson2025-10-11 21:22
Is that an official clay face poster?
M00r3C2025-10-11 21:37
No we don't have an official poster
A_Serious_House2025-10-11 22:55
I’m very nervous because it’s been proven time and time again that there isn’t much interest in Hollywood-focused, meta stories outside of the The Studio’s recent success last year and Sunset Boulevard’s enduring classic status.
It makes me even more nervous that these risky projects are being made for the comic book audience. While comic book stories are often very successful at genre blending, both Clayface and Wonder Man seem to be leaning into the Hollywood aspects rather than the superhero aspects.
This isn’t the best example, but She-Hulk made very little effort to appease the hardcore fans of the superhero genre (the base of all superhero content) while also trying to tell a story for a different audience. That project had quite a few other issues but was absolutely and unreasonably obliterated for daring to not deliver.
If both of these projects fail to appease the base of superhero content audiences while also trying to tell stories which historically don’t have much public interest, I could very well see a public rejection of both properties even though I’m personally very excited for both.
M00r3C2025-10-11 23:06
Clayface isn't just about Hollywood and it isn't a superhero movie it's a R-Rated practical effects body horror movie with a budget of $40m
A_Serious_House2025-10-12 00:01
That’s very true. Between the two projects, Clayface is certainly more “low risk / high reward” considering that budget. Hopefully it’ll be a situation like Agatha where the low budget makes it 10x more successful and isn’t a limiting factor.
The budget is low enough to minimize risk but it’s high compared to other comparable movies. The genre blending is an AMAZING way to expand the appeal because other comparable Hollywood or R-rated or body horror projects would’ve suffered with a comparable budget.
VacantThoughts2025-10-12 01:03
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was a huge hit, and there are many "meta" movies about actors and Hollywood not counting The Studio, kind of absurd to act like Sunset Boulevard is the one and only.
A_Serious_House2025-10-12 01:34
I’m not acting like Sunset Boulevard is the one and only but it’s still one of the most prevalent examples. I never said they were the only ones.
Stoic_Ravenclaw2025-10-12 06:15
She hulk was one of the most true to the comics projects in the MCU. If anything you are highlighting they can give the hardcore base exactly what they want and they'll still hate on it. It's really just the old adage that the fans don't know what they want.
A_Serious_House2025-10-12 06:18
I agree that the She-Hulk show was the most comics accurate but does that mean the show appeased the base of superhero content? Absolutely not, it even went out of its way to anger part of that audience.
I think it was a fantastic show and I agree the fans don’t know what they want, but I STRONGLY disagree that comics accurate automatically means good for business. I’d wager 90% or more of those who watch Marvel shows or movies do not read the comics.
BravoLeader30002025-10-13 18:48
I'm part of the base. I've seen every MCU movie since Iron Man 2 in the theaters at least twice, except The Fantastic Four: First Steps (just saw it once), and I've watched all of the TV shows multiple times (except Iron Heart, which I'vs only watched once so far, and Eyes of Wakanda, which I haven't finished yet), and loved She-Hulk. I've also been a Marvel Unlimited subscriber since 2011.
A_Serious_House2025-10-13 19:00
I am also part of the base and She-Hulk is my #1 or #2 show. I’m just saying the show went out of way to anger PART of the Marvel base, and it really affected the show in a negative way during its release. I think public opinion has shifted since the angry trolls who were vilified aren’t the only voice in the conversation, but it’s absolutely undeniable the show made very little effort to appease their base.
Poku1152025-10-13 19:08
The meta part of it was simple virtual signaling.
"Oh yes we are aware everyone sees us as a soulless quality less franchise now"
Proceeds to keep on doing exactly the same again and again.
Its like if McDonald's had sponsored that supersize me documentary
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It makes me even more nervous that these risky projects are being made for the comic book audience. While comic book stories are often very successful at genre blending, both Clayface and Wonder Man seem to be leaning into the Hollywood aspects rather than the superhero aspects.
This isn’t the best example, but She-Hulk made very little effort to appease the hardcore fans of the superhero genre (the base of all superhero content) while also trying to tell a story for a different audience. That project had quite a few other issues but was absolutely and unreasonably obliterated for daring to not deliver.
If both of these projects fail to appease the base of superhero content audiences while also trying to tell stories which historically don’t have much public interest, I could very well see a public rejection of both properties even though I’m personally very excited for both.
The budget is low enough to minimize risk but it’s high compared to other comparable movies. The genre blending is an AMAZING way to expand the appeal because other comparable Hollywood or R-rated or body horror projects would’ve suffered with a comparable budget.
I think it was a fantastic show and I agree the fans don’t know what they want, but I STRONGLY disagree that comics accurate automatically means good for business. I’d wager 90% or more of those who watch Marvel shows or movies do not read the comics.
"Oh yes we are aware everyone sees us as a soulless quality less franchise now"
Proceeds to keep on doing exactly the same again and again.
Its like if McDonald's had sponsored that supersize me documentary