Before the events of the MCU, Thor already knew Loki, while Gamora, Nebula, and Drax were familiar with Thanos. But does anyone know Doctor Doom before his debut as an Avengers villain? Is he really completely unknown?
I think this is so weird, unless the villain is an artificial intelligence robot
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That alone would show how powerful he is if his weakness is basically a Multiversal tier army
Kang defeating Doom doesn't necessarily mean physically since Kang overall has more influence/means than physical power.
They could still do something like that. Loki opened the sacred timeline up, so Doom finds his way in to impose his will on things. The aftermath of secret wars sees the timeline restores to what it shoud have been before Kang made changes. There's our soft reboot.
Something else just dawned on me. Given that HWR created the sacred timeline to stop his variants, it makes sense to get rid of Doom and Reed as Kang is allegedly descended from one/both of them. No Reed and Victor = no Kang.
My theory is, that during the events of the FF movie, doom had revenge on the leader of latveria (sorry dont know the name) for all the crime he did to his family. That is the reason why the chairs are empty.
I also think that if doom was present in their timeline as dr doom the bad boy. the would have mentioned him.
So what's my other option? I can't deny that he'll be there and so only option is for him to be the official doom or for him to be a variant or for him to be a Tony taking Dooms place. So personally I'd prefer it to be the third. But to each their own
1. They are clearly doing it because they equate their previous success with RDJ. The thing is, he's phenomenal don't get me wrong, but so were others. It's the story and world building that made it so good not ONE guy. So saying we're bringing him back for a different role won't save the MCU, properly investing in their directors, building a cohesive vision before going into world building, respecting the source material, etc will.
2. RDJ is singlehandedly the most paid MCU actor. He doesn't need more money. Meanwhile there are talented actors all over that deserve their shot... Why not go for that? Instead of spending insane amounts of money on one, granted talented, actor???
3. Sure there are variant universes, sure you can go all wibbly wobbly and say yeah so this one has the same face and/or voice as a completely different character all together but it just feels SUPER gimmicky
So yeah I know people our downvoting my idea that he's a Tony variant but in my head it makes much more sense than oh yeah in his universe this Doom has the same face or same voice as Tony..
So no. No one knew him except for those who can see the multiverse. At least that’s my take on it.
We have literally no way of answering your question with any level of correctness beyond "we assume hes an unknown because the single image you provided is the only mention or appearance hes had"
Edit: was it this https://youtu.be/Hkg9h2OA6hs?si=NrXTg2oYDmY4TnhW this is fan made
Thanos had this. He was teased throughout multiple projects, his goals were teased (Infinity Stones/McGuffins), and he ultimately had a film that centered on him (Infinity War). Doom has nothing besides comic book fans trying to hype him up on the internet. He is practically non-existent in the MCU at this time.
Assuming they don't play up he looks like Stark?
But we're left wondering why was Doom left out completely from the F4 movie? Why would a threat like Galactus appear, and *only* the F4 deal with it? Doom would totally be involved... If he was in that universe.
Franklin probably healed his face so they can actually show rdj and not pay him a billion dollars just so a stunt double does all his scenes
The only clue (if the Russos are not lying) is that the ending of endgame is somehow related to Doom.
My working theory is that Doom is NOT a Tony Stark variant. The MCU 616 Tony was a variant of Victor von Doom that never was raised as a Doom, he was a Stark.
That's why no Tony Stark outside of 616 is played or voiced by RDJ. Its why Kang was able to create a "sacred timeline" in that corner of the multiverse, the only timeline were a Doom never became Doom.
If it's anything other than this I'm gonna need some serious convincing
But not this Doom, of course.
But besides the Fantastic Four I bet the TVA, Kang, Loki (God of Stories) and The Watcher probably know all about Victor and his antics
Tbh this decision to cast RDJ reaaaallly confuse me. But also make me expect crazy story line that i might ended up loving it
I just hope that he IS a tony variant. Or something along that line. Heck maybe he IS our tony
And not just new character completely (cos.. then whats the point of casting RDJ?)
But everything points to him being in the FF4 universe currently
I think the story works most easily if Shuri or M’Baku know who he is.
So at the very least Latveria is a country recognised by the UN and the F4, especially Sue, as she works with the UN and world leaders a lot. If Latveria never send a representative, it’s very possible she takes note of that and has at least looked into Latveria and its leadership to see if they would be a problem.
I like to think that Doom and Sue met, but given Doom’s and Latveria’s reclusiveness, he agreed not to interfere with what the F4 are doing if they leave his country alone. And that he has an awful lot of respect for her and the good work she has done to help achieve world peace.
Mr Fantastic in 838 was using Doom's technology to arrive in the Illuminati meeting, so either that Fantastic Four already defeated him or were working with him.
Otherwise no, nobody else is going to know him.
Well, maybe Deadpool might but that doesn't really count
Other than that they essentially spoiled all other opportunities and avenues that would have been an easy layup to have Doom be a known entity by people.
Such as Zemo mentioning Sokovia was cannibalized by its neighboring countries? Would be very convenient to have one of them be Latveria. So that when it's leader opposes the Avengers? We understand why the people also don't like the Avengers and support Doom.
Or when Wakandan Vibranium is being stolen and they are trying to play who dun it the entire movie? Would've been nice for it to be confirmed it was NOT Talokan, Wakanda, or the US Government. Only to later see a suit built out of it.
Or the Adamantine arms race in the recent Captain America? A mention of an antagonist saying that they sold all the Adamantine they harvested to xyz.
In Multiverse of Madness when Strange meets the Illuminati. When you have a whole bunch of robots walking around that we all think we're built by Tony Stark? It would have been fitting for to question "Wait, you're the sorcerer supreme of this world?"
They should've had Mordo look at Reed Richard's, and then say "The Sorcerer Supreme had no desire to sit on this council. So I represent the sorcerer's sanctum."
Had that been done. All of the dots could have been there with an added line or two of dialogue to any given film. That I find frustrating.