Anyone checked up on the comics after seeing the films they’re based on?

I just started reading Infinity Gauntlet by Jim Starlin and only just realized how different Infinity War and Endgame are from it. Thanos would have been way less intimidating if he would have stayed a SIMP for lady death in the movies.

It was also fun to jump right into the middle of the action of Infinity Gauntlet and kind of understanding how it must have felt for someone who went to see Infinity War and Endgame without seeing any other MCU movie. As strange as that would have been.

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Professional-Net19402025-10-09 04:52

Yeah, I recently read CIvil War and omg it's way better and cooler. In the movie it's more of a quarrel between a bunch of friends but the comic is an actual war.

JBTriple2025-10-09 05:05

Don't conflate scale with quality. The movie was definitely better.

unklejakk2025-10-09 05:13

To be fair I could see how someone who doesn’t really read comics might read Civil War and think it’s good. I mean the main reason most of us think it’s total ass is because so much of it hinges on characters acting completely out of character. Someone who isn’t familiar with the comic versions of the characters could read it and think Tony Stark and Reed Richards are just… like that.

JBTriple2025-10-09 05:55

It's not bad, the movie is just way better.

We don't really get to see Cap do much of anything. He goes on the run and puts together the resistance, but then he sort of lives in the background for most of the event. He doesn’t have any sort of arc or internal conflict until the very end. Even the tie ins to his own series follow Sharon and Bucky instead of him. The overarching narrative is more about Iron Man and Spider-Man falling out than Iron Man and Cap.

The ending was just plain stupid though. By the end, Iron Man is straight up the bad guy. He's employing supervillains to round people up and send them to his space gulag without trials. There is no longer any nuance, it's crystal clear who's in the wrong. But then some buildings are getting destroyed in the fight, which somehow makes Cap just as bad. He folds under zero pressure, gives in to tyranny, and leaves all his supporters out to dry.

A lot of the resulting changes were pretty cool though. The initiative, Luke Cage's Avengers, Black Panther and Storm joining the FF, etc. It was awesome seeing the ripple affects of the heroes being divided in World War Hulk and Secret Invasion and all that.

b2bpaul2025-10-09 15:22

And they cloned Thor, which the real Thor was extremely pissed about when he came back.

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-09 06:06

Tony in Young Avengers: Please don't be a hero Cassie, I already lost your dad, I can't lose you too.

Tony in Civil War: We're gonna do this right. No more amateurs, kids, or psychos. Oh hey Cassie, you wanna join my army of superheroes and fight your own team? We put your friend Billy in the extra dimensional torture prison!

Professional-Net19402025-10-09 07:38

What should I read to get to know these character?

DickMartin2025-10-09 05:20

Wow.

Lower_Monk65772025-10-09 06:29

I kind of agree. Hear me out.

I got Marvel Unlimited with the intention of reading through several important story arcs. Civil War included.

Maybe it’s just the suggested reading order I was using, but my god it started to become tedious reading about the same shit through different perspectives after a while. It wouldn’t have been bad if they hadn’t included like 7 or so different series in it to make sure everything lined up. But I would have much preferred to just read a single graphic novel instead of ton of barely connected stories with a bunch of characters that were hard to care about.

It felt like Marvel went a step too far with making it this whole big thing where *everyone* needed to be involved.

JBTriple2025-10-09 06:38

You don't have to read all the tie-ins. If you're just looking to get into the main event, you can just read the event miniseries.

Lower_Monk65772025-10-09 06:56

Probably a mistake on my part going by the “official reading order” or whatever. But yeah, I’d probably like to skip like 75% of it if I ever do a re-read. It just felt tedious to do it the way that Marvel seems to recommend.

JBTriple2025-10-09 07:08

Yeah all the big marvel events are just short standalone mini series that all the other series crossover with for promotion.

The reading guides are just for keeping track of the entire event and everything that has anything to with it. Helpful for people like me who like to see how the larger world is affected, but if you're just looking for the main story that'll all be in the one book, which you don't really need a guide for.

masterionxxx2025-10-09 06:58

Civil War was much more justified in the comics than in the MCU.

In the comics a random young group of heroes decides to do some random heroing, resulting in hundreds of civilians dead. You can see both sides of the conflict.

In the MCU it's Tony who messed up. And he has the audacity to start the Civil War instead of doing a self-reflection? And characters outside of Rhodey ( theoretically, also Bruce Banner, since he helped Tony with Ultron ) actually supported him?! Team Cap all the way!

Cryoniczzz2025-10-09 08:42

I'd say it was a part of self reflection from Tony because the un was the one who un who initiated the thing and Tony complied with them and helped the enforce it. It's not like Tony made the thing up it was the un, and he saw it and helped come into fruition and it's not like it was only Tony there was scarlet witch who put the final nail on the coffin with her unstable powers. Also we clearly know how scarlet witch started acting up later on in the mcu so yeah

masterionxxx2025-10-09 09:46

>and it's not like it was only Tony there was scarlet witch who put the final nail on the coffin with her unstable powers. Also we clearly know how scarlet witch started acting up later on in the mcu so yeah

Ultron was created by Tony and Bruce.

And Wanda's actions in WandaVision and DS2 are again the results of them creating Vision after Ultron.

Wanda didn't cause the explosion in Lagos - Crossbones did. Wanda merely tried to contain the explosion - and failed. The blame here should be put on the terrorists, not on the heroes.

Cryoniczzz2025-10-09 09:56

Wanda was already on edge she would've crashed out sooner or later that is part of her character regardless of the end . Wandavision was because she crashed out not because of Ultron you are connecting stuff a lot back it's like saying a person crashed out because her parents made her. The blame isn't on Wanda it's on her incident which she couldn't use her powers correctly and thus put the final nail on the coffin for un decision.

masterionxxx2025-10-09 10:02

>Wandavision was because she crashed out not because of Ultron

She crashed out because of Vision, who in turn was created because of Ultron.

>The blame isn't on Wanda it's on her incident which she couldn't use her powers correctly and thus put the final nail on the coffin for un decision.

Rightfully, the blame is on Crossbones. If Wanda didn't do anything - people would die anyway. Actually, even more people ( just rewatched the street fight scene ). Including Cap.

Cryoniczzz2025-10-09 10:08

Yeah the main blame is on crossbones but for that world it's Wanda I am not saying who is wrong I am saying who was blamed for the incident inside mcu.
Also saying wv is bcs of Ultron and consequently Tony is same as saying a person crashed out after their s.o was killed because of their s.o's parent

masterionxxx2025-10-09 10:20

1. And that was unjust. There should have been a trial conducted. During which adequately she would have been acquitted of the charges.

2. What I'm saying - there wouldn't even be WandaVision without Vision. Wanda gained love and lost love, leading to her great grief.

Cryoniczzz2025-10-09 10:26

1. Yeah but that was undoubtedly the final nail in the coffin
2. I agree but wandavision wasn't caused because of Tony or Ultron just like how I said if you lose your partner and you crash out it isn't because of your partner's father and mother

Cryoniczzz2025-10-09 10:30

TheCloakMinusRobert2025-10-09 08:57

Civil war had a lot of bad characterizations, some much much worse than others, in the comics. The action and idea are cool, but it was not great overall

eBICgamer20102025-10-09 04:53

Me. For Thunderbolts I read the New Avengers run because Sentry.

For NWH rewatch I ended up doing a rerun of Civil War and One More Day.

For Marvel Zombies I just finished rereading Marvel Zombies, Zombies Assemble and Marvel Zombies: Black, White and Blood.

Maybe for Vision Quest I'll reread Marvel Zombies 3 only because of JOCASTA.

Spoiler alert: I'm also reading Spider-Gwen and Spider-Gwen: Ghost-Spider for Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

Once Fantastic Four Blu-Ray is out I'm going to revisit Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand as well.

aTreeThenMe2025-10-09 05:06

Holy shit is Jocasta coming?

eBICgamer20102025-10-09 05:11

https://deadline.com/2025/05/tnia-miller-jocasta-vision-marvel-series-disney-plus-1236411284/

aTreeThenMe2025-10-09 05:12

That's what's up! Also, this much closer to machine man

the-dandy-man2025-10-09 18:33

MARVEL GIVE ME A NEXTWAVE DISNEY+ SERIES AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

aTreeThenMe2025-10-09 18:37

They could've done the whole iron man 2020 thing too- brought Downey back as Arno instead of doom lol

GalwayEntei2025-10-09 21:40

>For NWH rewatch I ended up doing a rerun of Civil War and One More Day.

You poor soul

ohTHOSEballs2025-10-09 04:55

I read them first.

Sweepy_time2025-10-09 04:56

Read Thanos Quest as well, Great read up to IG. Pretty clever how he acquired each stone.

n0t_ep0k2025-10-09 13:44

^ This right here.

HeWhoLurks232025-10-09 22:48

I actually like Thanos Quest more than Infinity Gauntlet

RadioBitter34612025-10-09 22:58

I actually wanna go to haunted house more then I wanna go to aqua

CarcosaRorschach2025-10-09 04:56

I checked some of them, but ultimately I'm more of a movie guy for my superheros.

justafanboy10102025-10-09 05:32

Yeah me too, but it’s not by choice. Theres just no way I can buy comics books

CarcosaRorschach2025-10-09 06:46

I mean, a lot of libraries have graphic novels these days, that's how I read all of Hellblazer like a decade ago.

_GENERAL_GRIEVOUS_2025-10-09 04:58

You’ll find that there aren’t really any comic book movies (in live action, at least) that directly adapt a comic book storyline. It’s not like a novel adaptation. Even the ones that take the exact name of the comic event generally take a few ideas from it but tell a completely new story.

The flipside of this is that you often get characters and stories that get to draw bits and pieces from years or even decades of source material, which is awesome to see.

DangleberryFortune2025-10-09 06:05

I like this aspect of comic book movies a lot because it means people who actually read the comics are rewarded with a new story instead of paying to watch a comic they already read

the-dandy-man2025-10-09 18:35

I enjoy them for what they are - alternate universe stories. It’s why I like the Ultimate comics right now; it takes familiar characters and concepts and puts a new, fresh twist on them, so sometimes you know where things are heading, sometimes you don’t, sometimes you *think* you do, but you actually don’t, and all the while you get to do the DiCaprio pointing meme when you recognize something

jamesbondswanson2025-10-09 09:38

Whenever I read comics I’m usually thankful they don’t fully adapt them. Comics can be so unnecessarily edgy and they have some fucked up shit in them and awful characterizations. Comics often feel like soap operas. Every page there is a huge paragraph explaining how someone’s powers do something they have never done before and it will never happen again.

DangleberryFortune2025-10-09 19:06

So real. The MCU for a good while was so valuable because it had a very cohesive narrative, and the vast majority of things happened for a reason. And also, no fucked up edgy shit. I hate that more than anything.

Teganfff2025-10-09 05:03

I’ve done both; comics then movies and movies then comics.

Incred2025-10-09 05:17

I preferred his role in the comics more. One important thing that bugged me about the movies was the intent behind the snap. In the movies, he thought it would solve resource problems. As intelligent as Thanos was, he should have known better. With a huge abundance of resources, populations will just explode and be back to their previous levels in no time.

And he thought the universe would be grateful? All the pain of loss would have filled people with hate. The universe had to be filled with absolutely tragic scenarios. Imagine a single mother and a child - and then the mother is gone. That's fucked. Pilots disappearing in crowded planes. Etc. Etc. The snap ultimately killed more than half of the population.

In the comics, he didn't have any delusions of a grateful universe. He snapped people away because he wanted to honor Death's request and make her happy. That's it. The simping for Death was a bit much, but at least his actions honored his character.

I know they couldn't follow the comics all the way. The budget required would make even Disney wince. I just wish Thanos had a goal that was more in line with his character and made better sense.

Trivell502025-10-09 07:42

Hard agree.

DickMartin2025-10-09 05:27

I went through all my old comics back in 2010. I was surprised to find out they are the same or of lesser value. I also found the first couple generations of those marvel cards….

:: fingers crossed for my retirement::

RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-09 06:11

Hawkeye and Quantumania got me to read Young Avengers, as I really do like both Steinfeld and Newton as performers. So when I heard they play best friends in comics I was curious to check it out.

Young Avengers by Allan Heinberg and Jim Cheung is one of my all time favorite comics now and I absolutely love the Young Avengers. Kate and Cassie have such a strong friendship right off the bat, the tensions are high as all the kids meet at the ruins of the Avengers Mansion, and Tony, Steve, and Jessica Jones try their best to talk the kids out of it but they refuse. It's like Spider-Man but for a new team of kids. The Avengers were gone and someone had to step up to protect people, even if it was dangerous. The Young Avengers have the same base reason for being heroes as Spider-Man and I love that. They do it because they can, and because someone has to.

Sethito-Bandito2025-10-09 06:31

I decided to read Civil War a few years ago and now I’ve read quite a bit of the major comics of the last few decades. I’d recommend that comic as an easy starting point to get into reading them

NitroBlast45632025-10-09 06:49

I usually check out a few issues of any new character to be arriving into the MCU, like Wonder Man

dcredneck2025-10-09 07:14

I read the comics when they came out and waited decades to see it on the big screen.

pbj_everyday2025-10-09 07:17

I'd 100% simp for Aubrey Plaza

OnlinePosterPerson2025-10-09 07:33

Infinity war isn’t based on infinity gauntlet. It steals two moments, both from the first issue. It’s much more based on infinity from 2014 and Thanos quest

BravoLeader30002025-10-10 14:06

I was hoping someone would at least mention Infinity (2014)!

Big_Epsilon2025-10-09 09:02

It’s why I’m not reading Secret Wars, either iteration, because I want to wait for the films first. But I’ve gone and read back many periods of comics based on the films. It’s great

forevertrueblue2025-10-09 22:48

For the film and TV stuff I've read Vision and the Scarlet Witch, Secret Invasion, first few Kamala Ms. Marvel issues, the Extremis storyline, Infinity Gauntlet, Avengers: Disassembled, House of M, Secret Wars, some Winter Soldier stuff, and some Sam Cap comics. Also the first couple Captain Carter issues and the TVA miniseries.

Xboxone19972025-10-09 23:00

Comics Thanos is simply just a better character call him a simp who cares it’s more interesting and makes him stand out over the usual villains

sshemley2025-10-09 23:44

Infinity gauntlet book is 10000X better than the movies

Jakobmcstuffies2025-10-10 08:22

Sometimes I used to read the comics before the movie came out just to see how close they got, missed opportunities, and what they did better (no comic is perfect, neither is any movie). I read Civil War and Infinity War before hand, I will say that I understand Civil War placement in the MCU but it felt too small scale and kinda left the point of civil war political part around half way through to focus on Bucky, Cap, and Iron Man. In the comics it was more focused on the political and what was wrong and right, but I understand why they didn't for the movie.

Infinity War I felt like was a good adaptation, they didn't do the exact comic ending which I loved because I go see a movie to see other peoples ideas of it, the only thing I really wish they did was give Nebula a more fulfilling redemption but that's what GoTG 2 & 3 was also kinda there for so meh I don't mind.

I've been getting into the 2000s X-men movies kick recently so I have been kinda on the scout for X-men comics and understanding the differences between them.