A possible theory

I know there has been posts about it, but I'm going to discuss it anyway.

In Captain America: The Winter Soldier, we see a photo of Peggy with her children, and what if Steve is always meant to be the father of her kids, like how Fry is his own grandfather from futurama (whatever that paradox is), and maybe every action that everyone took in Earth-616 has already been set in stone when Steve had kids with Peggy, so it's like what came first, the chicken or the egg

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AcanthianVampire2025-10-08 21:23

Do we know yet if this is an event that causes an incursion?

I generally hate time travel plots because of the scenario you're describing, so my personal theory is that the timeline being messy is part of the problem this multiverse saga has to address and fix.

knotsteve2025-10-08 22:50

I love it when, years later, someone tosses out a much-discussed theory as if it's possible they just thought it up for the first time.

igby12025-10-09 07:08

What if the multiverse is The Matrix, every universe a simulation, and the real world is turtles all the way down?

marvelcomics222025-10-09 09:29

Steve created a branched timeline when he went back to live with Peggy. I know that Sousa died in the 616 timeline, but I wouldn't mind thinking that he married Peggy.

DigificWriter2025-10-09 16:20

This opinion is contradicted by the facts.

marvelcomics222025-10-09 18:09

Not you again. What facts?

DigificWriter2025-10-09 19:25

These facts:

**1. Multiple statements from Markus and McFeeley- the writers of Steve's entire story from beginning to end - establish that it was their intent to have Steve be Peggy's unseen husband all along.**

**2. As the writers, their intent takes precedence over the opinions of others, including the Russo Brothers**

**3. The only evidence supporting the Branched Timeline opinion held by the Russos is information established earlier in Endgame but that Markus and McFeely's statements about their intent for the conclusion of Steve's story - and the speculative nature of how said information is presented - intentionally contradicts**

**4. The establishment of Closed Loop Time Travel in Ms. Marvel retroactively validates Markus and McFeely's intent by establishing, clearly and unequivocally, something that the ending of Endgame was meant to establish based on their stated intent for Steve to have been Peggy's husband all along: that Steve did the very thing that Bruce insisted was impossible, which was to create a Closed Time Loop by using the last of the Pym Particles that he had to go back to the 1940s on the Sacred Timelie, reunite with and marry Peggy, and live out the years between the 40s and 2023 'off the grid' - even as his younger self lived a life very much 'on the grid' - before showing up to pass his Shield and the mantle of Captain America to Sam.**

icorrectpettydetails2025-10-09 19:42

> As the writers, their intent takes precedence over the opinions of others, including the Russo Brothers

Exact opposite of the truth. Creative authority in cinema goes: writers < director < producer < studio executives.

DigificWriter2025-10-09 20:06

When all or most onscreen evidence lines up with writers' statements about their intent, said intent absolutely takes precedence over others' interpretations/opinions.

icorrectpettydetails2025-10-09 20:12

[citation needed]

icorrectpettydetails2025-10-10 06:05

Still waiting for you to back this assertion up, FYI.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 06:08

They won't bother. Too busy whining about canon in other posts.

icorrectpettydetails2025-10-10 06:10

I know, I just think it's funny that they claim the facts are on their side and yet crumble the moment they're asked for any evidence to support the key part of their entire argument.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 06:15

Also, they're like the most factually incorrect person ever.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 03:03

Anything the Russos say takes precedence over anything Markus and McFeely say, and Ms. Marvel breaks the Endgame rules but it works because why not. Also, I thought that you only bitch about the canonicity of AoS, Agent Carter, Runaways, and Cloak & Dagger, not literally everything else.

spidervenom6192025-10-11 00:11

It's wild that you can be so right about one thing and so wrong about the other one.

Also you do know that you kinda needs AoS to be Canon in order to make Steve's be set in 616 right?

MoistTubes2025-10-09 18:54

It absolutely isn't.

Visible_Safe_89012025-10-10 07:53

Funny how you'd say this when your favorite show itself supports the idea of an open loop.

"Ripples, not waves."

DigificWriter2025-10-09 16:19

The "Steve Rogers was Peggy's husband all along" thing isn't a theory; it's absolutely and unequivocally what happened.

MoistTubes2025-10-09 18:55

he just sat in her basement for decades and then went to that bench.

MoistTubes2025-10-09 18:54

No.