I should not have clicked that spoiler before watching.
Purrmymeow2025-10-06 17:09
Don't worry. She was rescued by Namor kiss.
PayneTrain1819992025-10-06 18:26
He’s only coming back because Sue has entered his universe lol
SeniorRicketts2025-10-06 18:43
Namor: "Do you guys smell that?"
PunsGermsAndSteel2025-10-06 19:11
Majestic-Marcus2025-10-06 19:25
Namor’s used to the smell of the ocean. It’s home to him.
RandAlThorOdinson2025-10-06 20:58
If you put your ear in just the right spot you can hear the waves
SeniorRicketts2025-10-06 20:08
Exactly what inhad in mind🤣
Someone cooked here...
jhsounds2025-10-06 22:32
You smelled what someone was cooking.
rob1322025-10-06 21:24
The guy who controls the police?
alex-andrite2025-10-06 17:09
lol I should’ve read your comment before clicking the spoiler
comehereyoudevillog2025-10-06 17:24
It’s pretty minor
SeniorRicketts2025-10-06 18:41
FBI, open up!
yeti00132025-10-06 17:28
Once you see the context of this, it's actually not that much of a spoiler.
Hotdogsivy2025-10-06 18:32
I-…Is that not the essence of a spoiler???
Hyper10shin2025-10-06 18:37
Yeah but once you see it, it’s no longer a spoiler - you’ve seen it
Lmao.
Arsid2025-10-06 17:31
Lmao same, I thought it was a comic spoiler or something idk 😭
alexmaiden20002025-10-06 17:43
Don't worry, the One Above All comes down to save her
skippermonkey2025-10-06 17:49
Nicholas Cage does what now!?
bookon2025-10-06 17:55
Knowing this won't ruin the film.
Stphylcccs2025-10-06 19:05
It’s a massive thing that happens at the end??? (I don’t remember how to make a spoiler warning so… SPOILERS)
Yeah they get revived but still
bookon2025-10-06 19:12
I put the spoiler tag on for a reason, but as she is one of the leads of the next avengers film, that she gets revived shouldn't be surprising.
shwarma_heaven2025-10-06 18:03
To be fair... it was a pretty big effort.
SeniorRicketts2025-10-06 18:34
We could say it was... maximum effort💀
SeriousButton62632025-10-06 20:35
Also >!she had so much power because her son was in mortal danger. I wouldn't assume she would always be that powerful in other fights.!<
Devinbeatyou2025-10-06 21:18
Yeah when a normal mother gets an adrenaline spike she can lift a car, so when Sue gets an adrenaline spike of course she can >!push Galactus by herself!<
Mr-Stuff-Doer2025-10-07 02:25
Just pushing a really big car.
pmjm2025-10-07 07:07
I remember those summer weekends when Dad used to pile us kids in the back of the ol' Toyota Galactus for a road trip.
JSevatar2025-10-07 01:56
Hysteric strength
Mr-Stuff-Doer2025-10-07 02:25
Never underestimate Mom Powers^TM
TenPointsforListenin2025-10-06 17:01
Haven’t read many of the comics but holy cow she is unhinged.
busmans2025-10-06 17:09
She doesn’t mince words, but I don’t know if I would call that “unhinged”.
TwoHungryWolves2025-10-06 17:20
She never really does this stuff to people. She's just frustrated that she could win every fight in like two seconds if she wanted to
GONKworshipper2025-10-06 17:22
These are rare moments cherrypicked over the years. Most of them are directed at villains that were actively endangering her family and her children. She's normally very sweet, which makes it more impactful when she acts like this
DeganUAB2025-10-06 17:02
Great point! They literally quote Archimedes and convey that the right lever can move the world. In this scenario, her powers are the lever. She is only pushing a large object, that is standing on the earth, back slightly. It’s a team effort and needed everyone to be successful. This was a great scene and a great movie.
threemo2025-10-06 17:23
That doesn’t really make any sense lol
SindacodiLignano2025-10-06 17:04
She literally died after what she did. And even if she was overpowered, what’s the problem ? I don’t get why people keep complaining about this. Oh wait, I do know why…
Agent_14a2025-10-06 17:13
People really are so stubborn in their "opinion" that they try to divert everything towards it. They literally connected it to "woke". Like the whole sub theme of "mother sacrificing everything for her child" is just considered another propaganda by them, which is really sad how low these so-called fans have gone....
Whole movie, her character was portrayed so strongly, including that speech she gave outside the tower, was literally something you don't expect in today's cinema... But no let's just say everything even minutely female related as Woke and M-SHE-U and we are good to go.
SharpshootinTearaway2025-10-06 17:54
>They literally connected it to "woke". Like the whole sub theme of "mother sacrificing everything for her child" is just considered another propaganda by them,
Incels/Masculinists: It's wrong when female characters are written as girlboss career women who don't want kids and are more action-oriented, because that's not feminine. Women should not try to compete with men by being like them because it's sooo valuable and important to be a mother and a wife, and they don't realize how much power they hold over men by being soft and delicate, and all...
Marvel: Ok, well that's true! Here, then, have a female character who's defined by her pride in being a wife and mother, who's the soft and emotional counterpart to her husband's stoic and rational mindset, who completes him instead of competing with him, who reveals her power through motherhood, and for whom love and devotion to her baby is strength.
Incels/Masculinists: No, not like that!
Competitive_Side63012025-10-06 20:48
True. They just hate women. Susan is an amazing character who pushed herself to protect her family and they still hate that.
roygbivasaur2025-10-06 17:16
Sue Storm is also canonically powerful. When you look at their abilities, it just makes sense anyway. Thing is super strong, Reed is stretchy, and Johnny turns to fire and flies around. What do you mean you’re surprised that the one who can turn invisible, make shields, and do telekinesis (by way of shields) is powerful?
Hecklegregory2025-10-06 19:19
Wasn’t she underpowered originally in the comics and they bumped her up to top tier in like the 70s or 80s. I’m pretty sure it was a conscious effort by the writers years ago. Same pattern with Jean Grey. She would faint after using her powers then the got bumped up to a force of nature.
beigs2025-10-06 20:12
I also think someone sat down and went “what if Sue made a force field inside someone’s lung?” And shit got dark and terrifying after that moment.
It’s like how in avatar, water bending turned into blood bending, and air bending would suck a person’s oxygen out of their lungs.
Sue storm = oh crap, with a tiny effort she could kill thousands and have enough energy to run the PTA meeting in the evening.
1iIiii11IIiI1i1i11iI2025-10-06 20:46
In the comics, originally she only had invisibility. Force fields weren't introduced until [Fantastic Four #22](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Fantastic_Four_Vol_1_22). Incidentally, also the first time Ben gained the power to enter Clobbering Time.
TestingBrokenGadgets2025-10-06 17:24
Exactly! So many characters are shown to be overpowered by pushing themselves beyond their limitations and either passing out or almost dying but when it's a dude, it's seen as great. Toby Spiderman stopped a runaway subway to the point he passed out and it's one of the most cinematic applause moments of geekdom. Thor has Thanos on the ropes even with some of the stones and people called it insanely great.
Meanwhile anything to do with women, suddenly it's woke or overpowered.
comehereyoudevillog2025-10-06 17:25
Yeah that’s it, everyone is definitely sexist. Totally reasonable to accuse strangers of hating half the population because they called a fictional character over powered.
Yeshavesome4202025-10-06 17:52
If this doesn’t apply to you then move on. That’s totally an option.
When a woman tells you she needs to be on guard around men do you feel the need to scream “NOT ALL MEN!”?
comehereyoudevillog2025-10-06 18:00
Okay keep assuming everyone is sexist and carry on with your day.
FrontVarious64842025-10-06 17:30
I just think a lot of people view the “strong badass woman” trope as being overdone. Because, with especially Netflix, 90% of the new action movies they make are with a badass female protagonist. But also… unlike Sue, most overpowered female protagonists are just extremely unlikable and one dimensional, like Galadriel
sergemeister2025-10-06 17:41
>extremely unlikable and one dimensional, like Galadriel
# How dare you speak this way of the Lady of Lothlórien!
FrontVarious64842025-10-06 17:43
I’m sorry man, she’s just the typical “I’m better than you at literally everything” character and so it’s boring to watch her do anything. Also, how do you do the thing where you can respond to a certain quote of a comment?
sergemeister2025-10-06 17:46
You add the > to the beginning of the line.
I get the Mary Sue trope. But strong women have always existed in film. Riley in Aliens. Nancy in Nightmare on Elm Street. Sarah Conner in Terminator. Marty McFly in Back to the Future. Don't knock it.
Ren_Davis05312025-10-06 17:55
Greater than symbol then insert whatever text you want.
It should look like this:
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givemethebat12025-10-06 17:43
It’s not that she is overpowered, it’s that Galactus is underpowered. He’s a billion year old demigod who eats planets and she just…pushes him around? We never actually get a sense of what he can do or not do. Like he should be as strong as Thanos at the very least, who took dozens of superheroes to take down.
AuthenticAppalachian2025-10-06 17:04
They even “dumbed down” the reason she was able to be so powerful in the moment… al la mom strength in a moment of crisis, which is fine and a cool moment…
But In comics, she’s often just powerful almost effortlessly, no need to tap into the mama bear aspect to do it
Perca_fluviatilis2025-10-06 17:41
Characters are severely downgraded in the MCU compared to the comics to make for a more compelling narrative.
FX1142025-10-06 17:50
That's not as compelling of a story, though.
Thomas_JCG2025-10-06 17:05
It's not that we didn't think she wasn't powerful, even the Fox version was threatening to kill Doom by expanding force fields inside him. The issue was just that Galactus suddenly got helpless when she unlocked her "mom strength".
Lakilai2025-10-06 17:11
Not helpless. Caught by surprise. Until that moment he completely underestimated the FF to the point of patronizing by calling them "clever little bugs". He was unprepared.
sergemeister2025-10-06 17:20
#HUBRIS
CuteLingonberry97042025-10-06 17:21
And there's a HUGE difference between pushing him through a portal and causing him actual harm. At no point did he appear to be in any real danger from her.
Now...maybe Franklin could've done real damage, but would you really want the baby to be the ex machina of the movie? I mean he kinda was anyway, but still.
curious_dead2025-10-06 17:41
There's a whole trope of characters turning to 11 when someone they care about is endangered, and the whole effort literally drained her enough to kill her. She couldn't have beaten Galactus without teleporting him away, all she did was push him and hold him for a short while.
anrwlias2025-10-06 17:57
And still needed an assist from the Surfer to pull it off. That part keeps getting elided.
omgisthatbravo2025-10-06 17:06
She wasn’t overpowered, Galactus was just shit LMAO
Street_Age83592025-10-06 17:09
If she says force field one more time
sergemeister2025-10-06 17:10
FX1142025-10-06 17:51
It really is a lot of just explaining what she can do...
GetawayDreamer872025-10-06 18:08
i feel like she talks a lot and puts on an angry face(at least in these examples). not really sure she'd do any of it without hesitating if her bluff gets called.
sergemeister2025-10-06 18:47
I mean Logan felt more than just words.
GetawayDreamer872025-10-06 18:49
probably because she knows he'll be fine in the morning
BwanaTarik2025-10-06 19:40
She’s all talk. Stop playing games and put that forcefield in Dooms scrotum
naijaplayer2025-10-06 20:53
Antman Thanos 2.0 💀
_TheBgrey2025-10-06 19:57
Seems pretty common amongst heroes with various powers lol. Anytime vision shows up he reminds who he's fighting about his density shifting/phasing, heck even wolverine is always like "ouch Thankfully my healing factor heals me fast"
N8CCRG2025-10-06 20:03
It's how comics are written, I assume so that anyone who is new to it can comfortably jump in anywhere as easily as possible.
SeniorRicketts2025-10-06 18:35
Or "Disappear!"
iRyan_92025-10-06 17:11
I don’t think anyone has a problem with her being overpowered ( besides incels ) the problem the scene was anti climactic. Imagine an avengers movie where everyone is down and strange just portal the big guy? That’s basically the same
Toasty5012025-10-06 17:41
Was it not anticlimactic because she was overpowered? You would assume as an audience the whole team would be needed to stop Galactus, not just Sue on her own.
iRyan_92025-10-06 17:45
I think the set up matters a lot more. Sue being op is fine, the rest of F4 doing nothing at all isn’t.
moonknightcrawler2025-10-06 17:48
It did take the whole team. Sue couldn’t have pushed Galactus any further if Ben didn’t take the building down. Franklin would’ve been pushed through with him if Reed didn’t go get him back. Johnny was ready to sacrifice himself to push Galactus back through. Nobody else on the team could’ve done that. The only reason he didn’t have to is because the surfer pushed him out of the way
moonknightcrawler2025-10-06 17:46
Like the ending of Avengers 1 when everyone else is down for the count and Tony just flies the bomb through the portal to solve the problem?
iRyan_92025-10-06 17:54
They beat the main villain before it
ckal092025-10-06 17:12
Galactus was a pansy
Myhtological2025-10-06 17:13
She wasn’t, she did something*similar in Rise. But it felt like Galactus was underpowered. Sure I think he was holding back so he didn’t accidentally kill Franklin, but still.
SeniorRicketts2025-10-06 18:47
This is what i felt too
Galactus', presentation was really good but the team barely worked together and for him being what, like a millions years old, he was kinda weak
Worthyness2025-10-06 19:28
> he was kinda weak
I totally understand. I also get very hangry sometimes, but that makes me lose focus on things in pursuit of soothing the hunger
SimonShepherd2025-10-06 20:36
It feels like they are going to beat him with smart planning and shit and ultimately it comes down to brute force, which is kinda disappointing.
It's like if in DS1, Stephen's solution against Domammu is firing a mega powerful magic beam and just send him back to his dimension.
moak02025-10-06 20:52
It still required all that planning. They just had to improvise that one part of the plan.
On top of that, he's what, a billion years old and they can just *trick* him? With a simple bait and switch?
This is so much more believable. Redditors would write the worst movies.
CaptHayfever2025-10-06 21:13
**Genuine Spoilers Below.** (I know *you've* seen the movie, but there are other people in this thread who haven't.)
People keep forgetting this was >!their *4th* plan, & the one they had the *least* time to prepare.!<
>!Plan A was negotiate, which they expected to work. That didn't work because Galactus's demands were unacceptable.
Plan B was fight/flee, which was the preexisting backup plan. That got them away & bought them time, but still didn't actually solve the problem.
Plan C was teleport Earth away, which Reed took a long time to figure out. This would've worked if the Surfer hadn't returned, but she did & wrecked most of the teleporters.
Teleporting Galactus away was Plan *D*, & they had to come up with it on the fly.!<
PM_YOUR_ISSUES2025-10-06 22:40
It's funny, because that's literally what Dr Strange did in the animated movie from 2007.
PlatoDrago2025-10-06 18:54
He was probably holding back because he had a rogue silver surfer, didn’t want to destroy Franklin like you said, and didn’t want to destroy his next potential meal. Also, he probably just didn’t want to go all out. Galactus iirc doesn’t like doing what he’s doing so just vaporising everything in his path might just make him sad.
sergemeister2025-10-06 21:13
cormacaroni2025-10-07 00:28
I’ve always thought that Galactus is always trying to avoid using power because it increases his hunger. Dunno if this has ever been confirmed but it makes sense to me.
PlatoDrago2025-10-07 00:30
I think you’re right too! He implies that his hunger came when he attained this power so therefore it’s easy to conclude that his power and its use is connected to his hunger.
ccReptilelord2025-10-06 17:14
I'm gong to assume that the people saying she was "overpowered" are *not* the same voices griping about characters regularly being nerfed. We actually get Sue being closer to comic strength, and more complaining.
ProductArizona2025-10-06 17:16
Galactus was underpowered
HawkeyeP12025-10-06 17:20
Doctor Doom is lucky Sue has been so forgiving over the years.
I_am_a_wave2025-10-06 19:22
Most of the time he looks like a complete idiot, how comes?
beigs2025-10-06 20:07
He honestly reminds me of skeletor in his silliness sometimes
I_am_a_wave2025-10-07 00:13
Yes! Such a lame incel drama queen
So im sometimes scarred that doomsday will just be 30+ heroes cringing from his behavior and wanting to take the mask off just to punch him in the face
Mrmathmonkey2025-10-06 17:20
Sue is easily the most powerful member of the group. She can and has taken out the other three combined.
A_Serious_House2025-10-06 18:59
Any examples of her taking out the rest of the team? Sounds like a fun read
Mrmathmonkey2025-10-06 22:13
Look up Malice. Her evil alter ego
A_Serious_House2025-10-07 20:07
I’m familiar with Malice, I guess I interpreted your comment as Main Sue going against the team
JustOneBun2025-10-08 08:27
Main Sue *is* Malice.
MrUsername242025-10-06 19:48
Doesn't hunan torch get a little fucky sometimes?
ansonr2025-10-06 20:28
Yes, but we're talking about power levels.
gabeshadows2025-10-06 20:46
r/angryupvote
SukunaShadow2025-10-06 20:28
In a one on one comparison, she beats torch. What are you saying? Torch can make things hot and his high temps are really high. Doesn’t change Sue has him outclassed. Or can counter him before he does anything. Or counter him after he does anything.
MrUsername242025-10-06 20:32
Yeah straight one on one i dont think he has a chance, I just vaguely remember him as one of those characters that ends uo having some high upper end feats as well that you wouldn't expect
Umidk2025-10-07 00:01
You're right, he does. I like to think of it as Sue is more powerful, but Johnny is more destructive (if he wanted to be, which he never really does).
StoneGoldX2025-10-07 03:49
They're both kind of ridiculous. Johnny can get surface of the sun hot. But Sue's powers stem from manipulating hyperspace. When you read it like that, it really changes just how wacky her powers are.
Cash4Jesus2025-10-07 01:21
Reed is stretchy.
BeeCJohnson2025-10-06 21:30
This has been explicit in the comics for like fifty years, I don't know why anyone thinks this is new or surprising information.
Sue Storm when applying her powers intelligently is probably one of Earth's most dangerous/powerful heroes.
Aybara_Perin2025-10-07 07:15
I think Jessica Alba's sue is the reason for the "surprise" she couldn't use her powers without getting a nose bleed all the time. As I watched the movie I kept thinking they would do it again, I'm glad they didn't.
the_elon_mask2025-10-07 08:36
Sue can create forcefields inside people and expand them. I recall her just exploding robots because she could cut loose.
Timely-Hospital87462025-10-07 02:19
Every time there's an 'evil sue' story she absolutely obliterates the other three.
Dommy Mommy too strong.
LosAngelesHavingFun2025-10-06 17:21
I hate that people are mad about her literally pushing Galactus the effort in doing that literally killed her lmao
Healien_Jung2025-10-06 17:22
Can we talk about Maria Hill's face in the 5th picture?
sergemeister2025-10-06 17:23
udat422025-10-06 17:45
Looks a bit like that FBI dipshit
SeniorRicketts2025-10-06 18:40
Or Sue in the 6th: 😏
Vaportrail2025-10-06 17:23
I am a little disappointd the movie didn't do the 'Galactus is a perception' thing. It's one of the most interesting things about him.
Mugungo2025-10-06 21:52
i honestly thought they were going to pull that angle and have the fantastic 4 pop up in the main universe because they are trying to escape galactus.
Woulda been sick hail mary and woulda really shown how strong galactus is if he just popped back up after going through the portal
TDStarchild2025-10-06 17:24
Sue is canonically extremely powerful. So are Franklin, Wanda, Strange, Jean Grey, Storm, Hulk
I don’t see the issue?
Toasty5012025-10-06 17:43
Which Canon? Comic Canon has no bearing on the MCU. Her Power wasn't on that scale the entire movie until it was convenient for the plot.
extradabbingsauce2025-10-06 17:24
I thought they all seemed underpowered in the movie. Except the thing he seemed right
baseballbear2025-10-06 17:28
damn, she's a little mean
sergemeister2025-10-06 17:30
Only when she's pissed.
Shedart2025-10-06 19:42
She’s got that mama bear energy down - nice and fluffy until you fuck with the family/things she loves.
hhhhhBan2025-10-06 17:31
Sue is genuinely just like that, she isn't the invisble force field person the early FF movies made her out to be and I'm really happy First Steps did a good job of showing how much stronger she actually is.
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-10-06 17:32
She was great
JENOVAcide2025-10-06 17:38
What makes Sue so bloody powerful is having the brains to use such a power effectively. She has a stupidly strong power and the smarts to use in the best way.
rob1322025-10-06 21:26
Imagine if she got the stretchy Powers.
Apprehensive-Row81802025-10-06 17:41
This was in line with the comics. She's been the undisputed most powerful F4 member for decades now.
I also saw this as her being fueled by mum rage/the mama bear instinct. It's like a super power version of those mums lifting cars off their kids to save them.
Also let's be real a female character doing anything remotely cool these days or expressing any opinions gets the panties of a particular portion of the internet in a twist anyways. The only way those people weren't complaining about sue is if she just demurely waited to the side and let the men do everything
And not to spoil but the movie made it clear she put everything into that and that massive effort had pretty big consequences on her.
twistingmyhairout2025-10-06 20:29
I very much saw it as the “mom lifting cars off their kids” type strength for sure when I watched it.
Argular2025-10-06 21:01
Agree. There is that oft-posted page from the Civil War comic series where Taskmaster shoots Reed and Tasky realizes he done messed up and then Sue flattens him with a forcefield.
sergemeister2025-10-06 21:16
BalfazarTheWise2025-10-06 17:43
Overpowered? None of the fantastic fours powers seemed even halfway decent
matt_28072025-10-06 17:50
Not even stretchy guy!?
matt_28072025-10-06 17:45
My impression of this was that accessing this level of power was essentially a 1 off of a set of circumstances combining to help her tap into a level she otherwise wouldn't have had access to i.e
Existential threat right in front of her
Being pregnant and the changes that come with that
The additional power from the super baby(?)
Ren_Davis05312025-10-06 17:49
I hate Sue being this overpowered 😂
I’m not a Fantastic Four expert so I could be missing a lot of critical examples, but a lot of the times she will talk about all these options that we all know the writers won’t actually do. It becomes annoying because these options would instantly break the story, thus can’t ever happen. So we need reasons why they can’t. Chief among them morals. But if we know she won’t ever do them because morals then even that becomes exploitable to her enemies. I feel like every story should account for Sue’s power in finding ways to neutralize or circumvent it.
For the most part, we just have to ignore it and proceed with business as usual. She may say she has all this power, but functionally she does not 🤣
AmityPancake2025-10-06 17:49
She sure fantasizes about how to kill people a lot
sergemeister2025-10-06 17:52
Khanfhan692025-10-06 18:18
She has every right to.
AmityPancake2025-10-06 18:35
I’m not the thought police I just think it’s a red flag
czerwona_latarnia2025-10-06 18:35
She's probably a fan of murder shows.
Quotedcube2025-10-06 19:12
She's constantly having to think about what could go wrong if she misplaces a forcefield by putting it inside someone, or if she accidentally cuts off a limb with them. She has to think about the grizzly details because if she doesn't consider the possibility then she could hurt people on accident.
AlleRacing2025-10-06 17:56
Are there a lot of people saying this, or is your YouTube algorithm just feeding you the worst takes?
sergemeister2025-10-06 17:59
Dribbler3652025-10-06 18:01
Doesnt the galactus slide basically show she has no effect on him whatsoever?
sergemeister2025-10-06 18:03
Killing him would open up a different can of worms.
esmelusina2025-10-06 18:04
Doom’s response is 10/10.
sergemeister2025-10-06 18:07
Dooms reply:
Powersoutdotcom2025-10-06 18:09
I don't take people seriously when they talk shit about the movies, clearly never having read a single comic in their life.
Sue Storm has always been scary, and it was captured very well in that third act.
You don't even need to have read the comics or know anything about her because her character is built up and shown perfectly in this film, if not a bit toned down so she can scale later.
I just rewatched the movie, and I was totally blown away again. Everything is well done, and the only flaw is they didn't make it longer.
FlyingCow3432025-10-06 18:09
From like, a lore perspective she has been more powerful. But I still think she was too powerful in the film since they sort of set up Galactus as this unstoppable force and she just kinda stops him? Like I think her putting all her force into stopping him for a short moment could have been fine but just being able to push him back felt too strong, specifically in the boundary of what the film had set up.
heyguyz2025-10-06 18:10
Galactus isn't a sadistic masochist. Dude just wants to eat his beans. He smelled the trees/grass he's chill. The surfer could of abandoned him at ease.
Various_Ad73262025-10-06 18:10
Whoever said that don’t know sue
benbequer2025-10-06 18:11
It's as if people didn't read the comics they were complaining about or something...
One_True_Monstro2025-10-06 18:18
I think what we saw was a superhero version of hysterical strength. Galactus was going to steal her child.
ballinb0ss2025-10-06 18:19
Yeah wild takes. Sue was well written in First Steps. A character who made rational decisions based on prior characterization. I don't see the issue.
OhanaStitch_6262025-10-06 18:27
Galactus went across the universe to get sucked in a hole to go across the universe. Make it make sense.
Peer_turtles2025-10-06 18:39
I’m sure she’s busted as fuck in terms of power in the comics and whatever, but in the context of the actual movie, the “solution” being her just force pushing Galactus into the portal felt very underwhelming, especially after they hyped up him as a “planet eater”, an unstoppable force of the cosmos. But then he comes down, he’s barely the size of Godzilla who soon gets bitched by Sue after her maternal instincts kick in.
So I can see why people would think she’s way too overpowered, it’s more so because everyone else is underpowered. Especially with reed barely being able to stretch a few meters, and tbh I don’t even remember what the thing did during the entire battle.
Even after she technically “died”, it didn’t feel very narratively satisfying.
ObsidianSpectre2025-10-06 18:42
Who thought she was overpowered in the movie? She's easily the most powerful member of the FF and one of the most powerful characters in Marvel comics. If anything, I thought they nerfed her for the movie.
MovingTarget0G2025-10-06 18:58
It's not that Sue was overpowered, instead everyone else in the movie was extremely underpowered to give Sue an even bigger spotlight imo
Pretty_Frosting_25882025-10-06 19:00
I never heard anyone say she was, the complaints I heard was Reed was underpowered and didn’t stretch enough.
mrcrazymexican2025-10-06 19:01
Sue Storm was overpowered compared to FF #1, sure. But not compared to her standard of her past 40 years
MR11202025-10-06 19:03
In the 4th picture, I assume she is making this threat to someone COD voice chat.
SciFi-Life2025-10-06 19:10
If Galactus was powerful enough to freeze the Silver Surfer mid-air — someone who literally wields cosmic energy — then why couldn’t he just do the same to the entire Fantastic Four, who are way weaker by comparison? That’s a pretty glaring plot hole in the movie.
Aiyon2025-10-06 21:26
For decades, nobody has an issue with superheroes being powerful enough to beat their villains, because *that's how superhero stories work*.
But all of a sudden at some point people started using things like "overpowered" outside the context of arguing about who'd win in a fight, and instead to hide their actual reasons for disliking characters behind.
It's no coincidence most of the characters who get shit for being "OP" and aren't god-level strong like Sentry/Supes/etc, are women and minorities.
People aren't hating on Sue being strong because she's "too strong". They're hating on her strong because "anti-woke" grift has rotted their brains.
77Squares2025-10-07 05:49
Ignoring the black hole. She essentially died by over exerting herself by pushing Galactus back a few blocks. He also fell into the black hole by stumbling and being pushed by other characters.
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Someone cooked here...
Lmao.
Yeah they get revived but still
Whole movie, her character was portrayed so strongly, including that speech she gave outside the tower, was literally something you don't expect in today's cinema... But no let's just say everything even minutely female related as Woke and M-SHE-U and we are good to go.
Incels/Masculinists: It's wrong when female characters are written as girlboss career women who don't want kids and are more action-oriented, because that's not feminine. Women should not try to compete with men by being like them because it's sooo valuable and important to be a mother and a wife, and they don't realize how much power they hold over men by being soft and delicate, and all...
Marvel: Ok, well that's true! Here, then, have a female character who's defined by her pride in being a wife and mother, who's the soft and emotional counterpart to her husband's stoic and rational mindset, who completes him instead of competing with him, who reveals her power through motherhood, and for whom love and devotion to her baby is strength.
Incels/Masculinists: No, not like that!
It’s like how in avatar, water bending turned into blood bending, and air bending would suck a person’s oxygen out of their lungs.
Sue storm = oh crap, with a tiny effort she could kill thousands and have enough energy to run the PTA meeting in the evening.
Meanwhile anything to do with women, suddenly it's woke or overpowered.
When a woman tells you she needs to be on guard around men do you feel the need to scream “NOT ALL MEN!”?
# How dare you speak this way of the Lady of Lothlórien!
I get the Mary Sue trope. But strong women have always existed in film. Riley in Aliens. Nancy in Nightmare on Elm Street. Sarah Conner in Terminator. Marty McFly in Back to the Future. Don't knock it.
It should look like this:
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But In comics, she’s often just powerful almost effortlessly, no need to tap into the mama bear aspect to do it
Now...maybe Franklin could've done real damage, but would you really want the baby to be the ex machina of the movie? I mean he kinda was anyway, but still.
She’s all talk. Stop playing games and put that forcefield in Dooms scrotum
Galactus', presentation was really good but the team barely worked together and for him being what, like a millions years old, he was kinda weak
I totally understand. I also get very hangry sometimes, but that makes me lose focus on things in pursuit of soothing the hunger
It's like if in DS1, Stephen's solution against Domammu is firing a mega powerful magic beam and just send him back to his dimension.
On top of that, he's what, a billion years old and they can just *trick* him? With a simple bait and switch?
This is so much more believable. Redditors would write the worst movies.
People keep forgetting this was >!their *4th* plan, & the one they had the *least* time to prepare.!<
>!Plan A was negotiate, which they expected to work. That didn't work because Galactus's demands were unacceptable.
Plan B was fight/flee, which was the preexisting backup plan. That got them away & bought them time, but still didn't actually solve the problem.
Plan C was teleport Earth away, which Reed took a long time to figure out. This would've worked if the Surfer hadn't returned, but she did & wrecked most of the teleporters.
Teleporting Galactus away was Plan *D*, & they had to come up with it on the fly.!<
He honestly reminds me of skeletor in his silliness sometimes
So im sometimes scarred that doomsday will just be 30+ heroes cringing from his behavior and wanting to take the mask off just to punch him in the face
Sue Storm when applying her powers intelligently is probably one of Earth's most dangerous/powerful heroes.
Dommy Mommy too strong.
Woulda been sick hail mary and woulda really shown how strong galactus is if he just popped back up after going through the portal
I don’t see the issue?
I also saw this as her being fueled by mum rage/the mama bear instinct. It's like a super power version of those mums lifting cars off their kids to save them.
Also let's be real a female character doing anything remotely cool these days or expressing any opinions gets the panties of a particular portion of the internet in a twist anyways. The only way those people weren't complaining about sue is if she just demurely waited to the side and let the men do everything
And not to spoil but the movie made it clear she put everything into that and that massive effort had pretty big consequences on her.
Existential threat right in front of her
Being pregnant and the changes that come with that
The additional power from the super baby(?)
I’m not a Fantastic Four expert so I could be missing a lot of critical examples, but a lot of the times she will talk about all these options that we all know the writers won’t actually do. It becomes annoying because these options would instantly break the story, thus can’t ever happen. So we need reasons why they can’t. Chief among them morals. But if we know she won’t ever do them because morals then even that becomes exploitable to her enemies. I feel like every story should account for Sue’s power in finding ways to neutralize or circumvent it.
For the most part, we just have to ignore it and proceed with business as usual. She may say she has all this power, but functionally she does not 🤣
Sue Storm has always been scary, and it was captured very well in that third act.
You don't even need to have read the comics or know anything about her because her character is built up and shown perfectly in this film, if not a bit toned down so she can scale later.
I just rewatched the movie, and I was totally blown away again. Everything is well done, and the only flaw is they didn't make it longer.
So I can see why people would think she’s way too overpowered, it’s more so because everyone else is underpowered. Especially with reed barely being able to stretch a few meters, and tbh I don’t even remember what the thing did during the entire battle.
Even after she technically “died”, it didn’t feel very narratively satisfying.
But all of a sudden at some point people started using things like "overpowered" outside the context of arguing about who'd win in a fight, and instead to hide their actual reasons for disliking characters behind.
It's no coincidence most of the characters who get shit for being "OP" and aren't god-level strong like Sentry/Supes/etc, are women and minorities.
People aren't hating on Sue being strong because she's "too strong". They're hating on her strong because "anti-woke" grift has rotted their brains.