The Fantastic Four vs. Thanos
I'm honestly curious about what people think about this. If Thanos came to Earth 828 looking for Infinity Stones, how would the Fantastic Four have done against him? For this hypothetical let's assume Thanos already has the Space Stone (as he did in Infinity War when it began) but no other stones. He has the Black Order with him. His ship has an army of space dogs somewhere in pens. And the Fantastic Four, with their early warning system, detect Thanos' ship the moment it enters the solar system, before he sends anyone to Earth.
A lot depends on where the Stone(s) are on Earth 828 and what targets Thanos needs to attack. But the FF will know all about Thanos well before he ever arrives at Earth. As they did in their movie, the FF would have got in their ship and met Thanos in space to determine his intentions. I assume Thanos would have captured their ship and brought it into his own ship's landing bay in order to question them, and then Thanos and the Black Order would have attacked them. And that would be a mistake.
Reed is smart and resourceful, and he can potentially gain control of Thanos's ship. Ben is strong and I believe he could do serious damage to the Black Order. But Thanos has absolutely no answer for Johnny or Sue. The extent of Johnny's flame power is crazy and we didn't see anything close to its limits yet in the FF movie. Once the FF understood Thanos' evil intent, his disregard for life on a planetary scale and the danger he poses, Johnny would be unleashed. Sue told him to kill the Silver Surfer in the FF movie; in this scenario Johnny would char-broil whatever was left of the Black Order after Ben got through with them and Thanos's gigantic ship would give him plenty of room to use his flame. I don't care how strong Proxima Midnight, Cull Obsidian, Corvus Glaive or Ebony Maw are; they can't survive temperatures rivaling the surface of the sun.
Thanos's ship is the absolute worst place Thanos could have chosen for this fight: the FF wouldn't have to worry about wrecking New York and having to do damage control. While Johnny and Ben are absolutely decimating the Black Order--and no, it wouldn't be close--Sue would be keeping Thanos out of the fight all on her own with her force fields, protecting Ben and Johnny and Reed from any of his attacks while Reed determined strategy. The Space Stone hypothetically lets Thanos move anywhere, but I don't think it would allow him to penetrate Sue's force fields. (Though this point could be argued I guess, but Sue's force fields aren't physical barriers, which the Space Stone can ignore, they're energy constructs.) And then, once the Black Order is all dead the strategy is obvious. Sue puts a force field around Thanos to prevent him from using the Space Stone to escape the ship. Then she shrinks the force field until nothing is left of him but a puddle on the floor and a single infinity stone. Sue's force fields have the power to move Galactus. If they can do that, they can crush Thanos to death. Or I suppose she could simply give him a brain aneurysm.
At some point during the fight--perhaps after the Black Order are all killed--Thanos might unleash the Space Dog Army on the FF regardless of the damage they might do to his ship. Without Johnny and Sue, they would be a huge problem. With Johnny and Sue, they'll last a little longer than the Black Order based on sheer numbers but they'll all die the exact same way, burned to a crisp by Johnny.
This scenario changes significantly if Thanos had the advantage of surprise, which he did against the Avengers. But that won't happen against the Fantastic Four. Before they meet him Reed will know Thanos wears a ring of immense power and he is the greatest threat on that ship, and the FF will plan their strategy accordingly. With Sue neutralizing Thanos's physical strength, Ben and Johnny utterly destroying the Black Order and Reed being the smartest man in the universe, the Fantastic Four stop Thanos before he ever even arrives at Earth. And then Reed has some nifty alien technology to reverse engineer for the next few years.
A lot depends on where the Stone(s) are on Earth 828 and what targets Thanos needs to attack. But the FF will know all about Thanos well before he ever arrives at Earth. As they did in their movie, the FF would have got in their ship and met Thanos in space to determine his intentions. I assume Thanos would have captured their ship and brought it into his own ship's landing bay in order to question them, and then Thanos and the Black Order would have attacked them. And that would be a mistake.
Reed is smart and resourceful, and he can potentially gain control of Thanos's ship. Ben is strong and I believe he could do serious damage to the Black Order. But Thanos has absolutely no answer for Johnny or Sue. The extent of Johnny's flame power is crazy and we didn't see anything close to its limits yet in the FF movie. Once the FF understood Thanos' evil intent, his disregard for life on a planetary scale and the danger he poses, Johnny would be unleashed. Sue told him to kill the Silver Surfer in the FF movie; in this scenario Johnny would char-broil whatever was left of the Black Order after Ben got through with them and Thanos's gigantic ship would give him plenty of room to use his flame. I don't care how strong Proxima Midnight, Cull Obsidian, Corvus Glaive or Ebony Maw are; they can't survive temperatures rivaling the surface of the sun.
Thanos's ship is the absolute worst place Thanos could have chosen for this fight: the FF wouldn't have to worry about wrecking New York and having to do damage control. While Johnny and Ben are absolutely decimating the Black Order--and no, it wouldn't be close--Sue would be keeping Thanos out of the fight all on her own with her force fields, protecting Ben and Johnny and Reed from any of his attacks while Reed determined strategy. The Space Stone hypothetically lets Thanos move anywhere, but I don't think it would allow him to penetrate Sue's force fields. (Though this point could be argued I guess, but Sue's force fields aren't physical barriers, which the Space Stone can ignore, they're energy constructs.) And then, once the Black Order is all dead the strategy is obvious. Sue puts a force field around Thanos to prevent him from using the Space Stone to escape the ship. Then she shrinks the force field until nothing is left of him but a puddle on the floor and a single infinity stone. Sue's force fields have the power to move Galactus. If they can do that, they can crush Thanos to death. Or I suppose she could simply give him a brain aneurysm.
At some point during the fight--perhaps after the Black Order are all killed--Thanos might unleash the Space Dog Army on the FF regardless of the damage they might do to his ship. Without Johnny and Sue, they would be a huge problem. With Johnny and Sue, they'll last a little longer than the Black Order based on sheer numbers but they'll all die the exact same way, burned to a crisp by Johnny.
This scenario changes significantly if Thanos had the advantage of surprise, which he did against the Avengers. But that won't happen against the Fantastic Four. Before they meet him Reed will know Thanos wears a ring of immense power and he is the greatest threat on that ship, and the FF will plan their strategy accordingly. With Sue neutralizing Thanos's physical strength, Ben and Johnny utterly destroying the Black Order and Reed being the smartest man in the universe, the Fantastic Four stop Thanos before he ever even arrives at Earth. And then Reed has some nifty alien technology to reverse engineer for the next few years.
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Thanos sends multiple ships down to earth at once. Therefore spreading the fantastic 4 thing.
Your biggest “if” is Reed getting ahold of ship controls, when he knows nothing of titan technology. Like Tony barely knew how to fly the donut.
Thanos literally has his main ship Sanctuary II.. and then dozens of supporting vessels.
You just don’t want to admit that having detectors ain’t going to do shit to help the FF, just know how much time they have until a force that literally decimated Xander.. with no stones.
Face it, the FF are weak af to every scenario of just them vs Thanos and his military/ allies.
I can’t believe I saw one of those on the internet. 😭