Do you think that we could see a Captain America 5 with Anthony Mackie?
With Marvel reportedly focusing on their stronger franchises going forward, since the box office failures of Quantumania and The Marvels, the latter of which is pretty good, and the former has its moments, they might not make a Captain America 5. Brave New World didn't do particularly well at the box office or critically, but the people who liked it liked it. I hope that they give Anthony Mackie at least another movie before recasting Steve, or have them coexist and still give Mackie another movie. I think that the important thing is having the director lock down the story, Julius Onah was pretty good, and the action scenes were great, so if they want to bring him back (and I think they should), they should, and just invest time in the story. While James Gunn's 'screenplay first' methods work, the first Iron Man was literally written on a whiteboard, so Marvel can do what works for them. I just hope that Mackie gets another solo movie as Cap after Secret Wars, and if it does well, they finish his trilogy.
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Falcon was great in the captain America movies as a sidekick but he doesn’t have the charisma or entertainment value to be a main character. BNW was intensely boring and the best parts of Falcon & Winter Soldier were exploring John Walker. There’s a reason BNW got such poor reviews
It doesn't fit well for me so far because the writing and Mackey's screen presence in delivering these themes just doesn't click for me almost at all.
His character feels like white people recruited a couple of melanated writers - from the suburbs - to help them write what they think a black person should be like. And that maybe they corralled all 6 of their black friends to do a "black themes" brainstorming session and pick one (1) black history concept to build a theme around, then kicked them out of the room while they finished a studio-approved draft.
I hope things get better for you.
They screwed Mackie over big time imo.
Thor, Cap, and Iron Man only took a year or two to show up again after their first film.
Like they either spent a lot of time with already established characters or introducing us to characters that we don’t really care about.
Half the sub (including me) complains about marvel fatigue and too much content. The other half (including me) complain about not having more Shang Chi or black panther. Personally Sam’s cap is way further down the list of stuff I’d like to see but each their own I suppose.
Strange yea he probably should have a 3rd movie by now
I havemt watched Eyes of Wakanda, but I think they are pretty lost on what to do with Black Panther. Shit, Black Panther 2 was an Ironheart movie, cant convince me otherwise.
Dr. Strange, i think that the end credit scene is setting up whatevers hes going to be up to in Doomsday.
I kind of want a Doctor Strange TV show following the whole World without Magic arc from the comics.
The concept that Strange gets his magic by performing a "ritual", and it opens a gateway to another magical dimension, and he uses that magic. Its more like summoning that pure magic. If they use multiverse logic instead of dimension logic, then he would lose most of his powers after Secret Wars, and have to rely on Magical artifacts instead of spells, it would make a sick series. His bow that tracks enemies, he would still have his cape. And we would get a deeper look into Zelda (the young assistant thats always in the Sanctum Sanctorum).
Even if it is execution wise, it's likely to do what Thunderbolts did and be a sleeper hit kinda thing, hypothetically speaking.
I wouldn't put my expectations high.
My personal theory is that Sam's Avengers, made up of throwaway characters will be the first to encounter Doom and just get completely destroyed instantly, fracturing his already thin ego as leader and deciding to step down as both a leader and a hero. Maybe have the Avengers made up of the post-credit characters we'll never see again like Hercules, Black Knight, Starfox, and Clea since they all fill in for key Avengers roles and serve as a way of closing out their misguided introductions. It'd also work as a way to signal Doom's strength and give a reason for the New Avengers to get more attention.
Calling someone a racist because they don't like one shitty actor is just belittling what racism actually is. Congrats on devaluing a very serious topic because you can't handle that someone doesn't like a single shitty actor that just happens to be black.
That could actually make for an interesting story, but I don't think they'll be doing that. They like Sam/Mackie too much. If anything, The New Avengerz/Thunderbolts will be the ones to lose badly, and Bucky will be blamed for it. Then, Sam steps up, and is an amazing leader
The meh that was boring new world didn't help his already nonexistent hype either.
As usual, Strange will be his own thing, Thor and Captain Marvel will arrive seperatelly to join the team.
Im not sure another movie would do better but it would probably be even worse PR if they avoided making it.
They can probably get away with never making a Blade movie by just pushing it further and further back.
Unless they have Sam retire after the next Avengers movies.
Ftr, I liked the series and movie.
After Secret Wars, the characters/mantle will have had 4 solo films, 6 Avengers films and a TV series. His best villains have been used, the curiosity is satisfied. It might start to feel samey.
I hope we all come away from Secret Wars loving the character more than ever before, but right now I’m not itching for more Cap content like I was 10 years ago. I say that as someone who was reading a Captain America comic last night. There’s still greatness, but the MCU characters kinda have a shelf life and his might be best left alone at some point.
I'd like him to go back to being Falcon because honestly Falcon is a cool hero and it means he's much less trying to compete to prove himself to an audience that liked Chris Evans' portrayal of Cap.
By going back to being Falcon he's respecting Cap's legacy more by not trying to replace him, and carving his own path as a cool and unique hero.
He pretty much plays the same character.
If they want to be successful with him. They need to make him take the serum so it can be somewhat believable about the things he does as human only.
No one bats an eye, when Batman goes toe to toe with *Superman*, and generally Batman is never infused with any super soldier serum.
I don't really understand the double standards there, but also.. if Cap takes the serum that makes his only solo film and series - character development wise, *pathetically pointless*
I dunno, make em MCU's only truly *peak* human.
He deserves a shot, but I think trying to be Cap instead of just being Falcon dramatically harmed his chances of being received better.
Just give him a dope straightforward mission and let us see him being a badass in the world.
The character doesn't have the audience's interest. He is not a character mainstream audiences care about. Characters like Yelena or US Agent have a more interesting arc and personality. Like see how many hype there is to see the Thunderbolts again but not for Sam's Captain America.
I think that it could only work if the plot looks really interesting and involves an important conflict or many avengers in it.
assuming they're not doing a full reboot the success of any of these characters will likely depend on their reception in the upcoming avengers movies
I’d so rather watch a Isaiah Bradley movie.
Sam can’t make his own suit, isn’t a super soldier, isn’t an elite fighter, not super intelligent, not an elite marksman, he’s just an average guy in a suit other people have to make/repair for him.
Maybe a miniseries of him being Falcon and not being Cap, that could be cool, or have him as Falcon appear in more content like Daredevil or something. He has charisma, I just think they doomed him by trying to make him fill Cap's role instead of just remaining Falcon. (I know the comics did it too, and it was just as mid then too).
Or you're a time traveller.
- Blade
- Nova
- Black Knight
- Midnight Suns
- Captain Britain
- Ghost Rider
- Beta Ray Bill
- Shang Chi with Iron Fist
- Daredevil & Spiderman
- X-men Trilogy (not the rehashed Fox versions)
Plus mutant specific stories:
- Rogue vs Captain Marvel storyline
- Gambit: Thieve vs Assassin Guilds
- Storm with Black Panther
- Wolverine (not Hugh)
Most people don't even know who Black Knight is or care.
Ironman was not popular until RDJ brought the character to life nor GOTG until James Gunn wrote and directed a cast of mostly unknowns, Deadpool until Ryan Reynolds leaked the footage etc but good casting, a good story and good directing can get people excited. Shang Chi was well received because it had those essentials while Elementals was not because it didn't.
tl;dr - I could see a Captain America 5 where Sam isn't the focus and neither is Chris Evans, but rather maybe a new Steve Rogers.
so audiences want to see more of him, and then give him Captain America 5.
Like I guess it was cool we got some >!closure for stuff involving the Incredible Hulk !<
But I honestly thought it would focus more on the events after Falcon and Winter soldier.
>Like we'd see the American Patriot again or >!The power broker!<
Maybe they actually have to work together and get stuff done right, heh. But I digress
Brave New World as not bad, but definitely it felt like two different movies in a trenchcoat.
How Marvel had so many threads going and decided that… uhm… nah, let’s introduce 18 more instead of actually making a coherent story. I’ll never know.
Hopefully this is the meandering middle part. And whatever comes after Secret Wars will be the actual return to form. Heck, they’ve at least convinced me with both Fantastic Four and Thunderbolts* that they know how to make great movies still. Even if the audience ain’t showing up as in the same droves as when it was the cultural zeitgeist.
There’s been a divide over some properties which should have been more like well they love it so let them instead of the infighting.
This has lead to more caution and a bit of unwarranted hate, recent cap not my favourite but not a bad MCU film yet AM got some crap for this which wasn’t deserved at all and he defo deserves another film, but I think team ups are gonna be a way forward for a while, I’m open to experimental but it’s become a minefield of expectation so I’m not sure.
I would hope they shift Sam away from being Cap and let him be Falcon again. He doesn't need to be Cap, and as Cap it just felt boring.
He and Bucky both feel like supporting characters imo and while they are performed well, between a just okay script and not really being the mainliner type of characters (Imo) I just would rather see them focus on a different character and move Sam back to being Falcon. He is much cooler as Falcon than trying to fill Steve Rogers' and by extension Chris Evans' shoes. It's just odd they tried to make that happen instead of letting him have his own story as Falcon, and now it's too late to turn that sentiment imo.
He is extremely bland and boring as Cap. I think Sebastian Stan would’ve given a way more interesting performance if the mantle went to him instead.
A former soviet assassin becoming the icon of America and trying to live up to a dead Steve Rogers doesn't hit as hard when he's already been elected to fucking congress.
He doesn't even feel like Captain America. He's more like Iron Man without the money or anything that made him likeable.
as part of some team? maybe
People were yearning for Chris Evans, people nowadays barely know who's Captain America. If he remains as Cap, it'll be a team up film. Based on the Thunderbolts tease however, I have a strong feeling he'll just die in the Avengers films
If it were up to me I'd follow the end of Battleworld with a historical redux series following the changes since WW2, and I'd want to see pretty quickly where Steve ends up. To get there I think we need Falcon to make a sacrifice and bow out before the reboot.
Just retire him and go on without Cap.
The first film had a messy production and a bad choice in writer and directors
Whether it will happen will depends on how he is portrayed in Doomsday and Secret Wars and whether people like it or not
Because Brave New World was more like Hulk 2 than anything resembling a Captain America sequel.
That being said I'd love to see some more action with Isaiah, at least that character's story is of a lot more interest (on the surface) to me. Didn't care one way or the other for how he was handled in Brave New World, but the (very small) setup from the Disney+ series was at least compelling enough. Anyway I have no expectations for that, just putting it out there for what it is worth.