endgame theory

so we all saw loki being pruned after escaping with the tessaract in his show, but theoretically shouldn’t cap and tony have been pruned when they went further back in time to 1970. the tva said that the avengers time travelling was all supposed to happen, but loki escaping was not. however loki’s escape is what led cap and tony further into the past, which could mean that they should’ve been pruned aswell? but idk i need peoples opinions on this

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bangarang902102025-10-05 15:27

They had already left by the time the TVA pruned the timeline,

xpacean2025-10-05 15:52

So would that mean the whole discussion between Hulk and The Ancient One was a moot point?

bangarang902102025-10-05 16:18

No. The TVA reset it to the point where Loki took the tesseract. The time stone and the mind stone still had to be returned.

Visible_Safe_89012025-10-07 11:57

That's exactly how it doesn't happen. That's resetting. TVA can't do that.

bangarang902102025-10-07 18:23

The TVA doesn’t destroy every iteration of the timeline. The time stone and mind stone still had to be returned to their branch

Visible_Safe_89012025-10-07 20:36

Yep. True.

>The TVA reset it to the point where Loki took the tesseract.

But this is not true. This is resetting. TVA can't reset timelines.

bangarang902102025-10-07 23:43

I think you’re taking my words too literally.

AndrewInMN2025-10-05 15:33

He Who Remains paved the way. It’s just that I don’t think Ravonna knew that, so she told Loki what he did wasn’t supposed to happen even though HWR was making it happen. Or so he said, at least. That’s my take on it.

evapotranspire2025-10-05 18:12

\^\^ EXACTLY. Everything that happened - including Loki escaping with the Tesseract - was supposed to happen, as orchestrated by HWR. But Ravonna was in the dark about it.

jedimstr2025-10-05 18:09

That timeline was pruned from the point forward where it diverged from the Sacred Timeline, which would be from when Loki took the tesseract and escaped. Prior to the pruning, Sacred Timeline versions of Cap and Tony had jumped to the 1970's, which was earlier than the pruning point and was on the main branch deemed the Sacred Timeline. Pruning a future branch has zero affect on the main timeline and earlier branching. If you break off a dead branch at the top of a tree, you don't expect the trunk of the tree to suddenly disappear, so why would you expect Cap and Tony to be pruned here?

DefNotAShark2025-10-05 18:58

The TVA is not a reliable source of information in S1 because they themselves are unaware of what's actually happening. HWR is manipulating all of it, and the entire Sacred Timeline mission is a deception. The TVA didn't know it but they are just his personal hit squad, squashing beefs across time that concern HWR in regards to Kang possibly returning.

If the TVA actually pruned every variance across time that shouldn't be there, Sylvie would have been pruned way sooner than the age where they came for her. They came for her when they did because HWR orchestrated it that way, and he did that because he wanted Loki S1 to happen.

So what the Avengers are doing is really of little concern to HWR (and by extension the TVA) unless they cause Kang to happen, or they interfere with his Loki S1 plans. Since they did neither as far as he knew, he left them alone.

juances192025-10-05 19:15

The avengers from the present getting the stones needs to happen so they can't get pruned.

The 1970 timeline itself may get pruned after they leave, but those two are safe.

Visible_Safe_89012025-10-07 12:02

No. They pruned the "branched" 2012. It has no effect on the trunk (1970).