Marvel Zombie reaction (spoilers)
I thought it was absolutely amazing, definitely need a season 2. Ready to rewatch immediately. I like that it is an easily digestible short season formula (like a miniseries), and I think this would be a great way for Marvel to move forward with a lot of concepts as long as quality is high.
This captured me monumentally more than What If s2 and 3 and the Eyes of Wakanda series. (I didn't even watch Miss Marvel or Ironheart or Agatha or a lot recently tbh). Honestly could barely finish them; didn't connect with the characters or storylines, and the animation seemed really underdone with a lot of just still pictures and narration expostion...the new Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man series was excellent and this was outstanding too. Definitely made me want to go back and rewatch some things (especially since I guess What If leads into this), but **holy smokes**. I could go on a long time, but here are some standouts from the first watch through:
\- no one was safe, so you really didn't know what to expect, who to connect with, and where the story was going. I thought they did a great with hectic, plot-pushing pacing, and then allowing space for emotional moments when appropriate.
\- the first three episodes started from different character's settings and perspectives, and then eventually linked up with the main plot/group. This was brilliant because you got to experience different types of terror and reactions and parts of the universe, rather than always being from Kamala's viewpoint.
\- loved to see the zombie strain interact with the Pym particles and how it adds a whole new variable/dimension to sci fi horror
\- getting real Asgardians to straight up eat zombie brains and eyes is the most horrific thing ever; truly repulsive. Well done - one of the many ways Marvel used the M rating well.
\- as "aura farming" and dope as Blade was, Khonshu should've made him a much more advanced threat. He went out super sad and even episode 3 Valkyrie commented on how he should've had a heads up about the zombie feast.
\- every scene with Infinity Hulk was so visually epic. The swirling of colors and the slowing of time...truly epic.
The development of the plot was so well-done and disparaging that at the end of episode 4, I really was wondering if Wanda was onto something - did she learn how to operate and control her zombie brain and contrive a way to recreate it all with Infinity Hulk and Kamala? I thought that was a really neat plot twist, only to bring it back to what we all feared and suspected all along - the whole thing is an awful illusion, just like the revel feasts. It was a perfect cliffhanger with Riri breaking through - signaling that all is still not well and the Avenger must assemble...
thoughts? reactions to my reaction?
This captured me monumentally more than What If s2 and 3 and the Eyes of Wakanda series. (I didn't even watch Miss Marvel or Ironheart or Agatha or a lot recently tbh). Honestly could barely finish them; didn't connect with the characters or storylines, and the animation seemed really underdone with a lot of just still pictures and narration expostion...the new Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man series was excellent and this was outstanding too. Definitely made me want to go back and rewatch some things (especially since I guess What If leads into this), but **holy smokes**. I could go on a long time, but here are some standouts from the first watch through:
\- no one was safe, so you really didn't know what to expect, who to connect with, and where the story was going. I thought they did a great with hectic, plot-pushing pacing, and then allowing space for emotional moments when appropriate.
\- the first three episodes started from different character's settings and perspectives, and then eventually linked up with the main plot/group. This was brilliant because you got to experience different types of terror and reactions and parts of the universe, rather than always being from Kamala's viewpoint.
\- loved to see the zombie strain interact with the Pym particles and how it adds a whole new variable/dimension to sci fi horror
\- getting real Asgardians to straight up eat zombie brains and eyes is the most horrific thing ever; truly repulsive. Well done - one of the many ways Marvel used the M rating well.
\- as "aura farming" and dope as Blade was, Khonshu should've made him a much more advanced threat. He went out super sad and even episode 3 Valkyrie commented on how he should've had a heads up about the zombie feast.
\- every scene with Infinity Hulk was so visually epic. The swirling of colors and the slowing of time...truly epic.
The development of the plot was so well-done and disparaging that at the end of episode 4, I really was wondering if Wanda was onto something - did she learn how to operate and control her zombie brain and contrive a way to recreate it all with Infinity Hulk and Kamala? I thought that was a really neat plot twist, only to bring it back to what we all feared and suspected all along - the whole thing is an awful illusion, just like the revel feasts. It was a perfect cliffhanger with Riri breaking through - signaling that all is still not well and the Avenger must assemble...
thoughts? reactions to my reaction?
Commentaires
I think the good guys needed a win here or there, as overall it was a bit of a downer to end where it did.
Like, the wins they did have were so short lived that there wasn't much payoff for them. Its just all down hill.
Infinity Hulk was also absurdly weak.
The hunger/virus is eventually inescapable.
Did they originally make 8?
Theory: the other half are banked for the next quarter in a scheme to keep subscriptions from being cancelled and re-upped. New (smaller chunks of) content will always be just around the corner.
Edit: Marvel has merchandising rights for Spider-Man, but that's about it.
You should absolutely watch Agatha. The best MCU Disney+ show of them all, in my opinion, and perfect to watch around Halloween.
Television needs a new rule: if you cant put out a season every year you dont get to do a cliffhanger.
Does it leave room for more, sure, but it was also a resolution to the existing story.
I do think if they explained a bit more this could have served as one of those bone chilling horror endings but as it stands it felt like a cliffhanger to me.
Wanda was genuine in wanting to reverse the zombie plague, and needing the infinity stones to do that.
Couldn't get the infinity stones, because they're destroyed and Hulk controls their energy.
The infinity energy is chaotic and imprecise when not bound in the stones. If Hulk had access to the power of the stones he could just snap the zombies away, hence the raw energy must be less useful.
Wanda might be able to gather an army and take the energy from Hulk alone, but she can't reforge the stones to make them useful.
Kamala's crystal power is somehow linked to the initial forging of the stones. Wanda knows this somehow. She reasons that with Kamala's help she can reforge the stones.
Upon obtaining Kamala's help and the energy, there's still some flaw Wanda didn't foresee. She's only able to create the fake reality around Kamala, keeping Kamala safe and under control until Wanda can figure out the secret sauce.
Riri only sees Kamala trapped in a fantasy, and tries to get her out.
It's kind of a rehash of S1 in S2: Wanda seems blatantly evil at first, slow reveal that she may actually be trying to help but using the 'by any means' approach. The heroes have to choose whether to help Wanda and hope for a total reversal of the plague, or accept all their friends are dead dead and try to kill Wanda.
Is that Antman's head with Dr.Strange cloak? If so, how he is zombie in last fight? And the head also there? Or am I getting insane?
Janet got infected in the quantum realm, she bit Hank when he came to rescue her, they both got Scott when they came back but Hope escaped, Hank & Janet bit the Avengers when they showed up to help. That's the origin of the entire plague.
Later, Hope killed Zombie Strange & took the cloak. Vision figured out how to cure Scott but could only do so by removing his head. Once Hope's group found Vision & Scott, the cloak teamed up with Scott. Hope then got bitten by a horde while helping the others escape.
BUT, the ending felt like the biggest let-down I've seen in media recently. Seriously, the "it was all a dream" trope COMBINED with the trapped in an illusion trope? Couldn't be more cliche, and just made me feel like the whole season didn’t matter and the death’s actions didn’t have consequence, which was why I liked them so much in the first place
What I hated was Wanda as a villain a-fucking-gain 🙄 let the girl get some rest please.
But at the same time, I feel like the writers are maybe not making it as obvious as it seems? Maybe there’s more too it who knows. Or I’m wrong and they really are making her the ‘big bad’ for marvel zombies
Also that Wanda just teleported and somehow stuck her hand inside Infinity Hulk. I was imagining he will punch her while she did it but he never did. "She had to amass that big of an army to tire him out enough for her to get close." She's always implied to be OP but somehow she didn't need Infinity Hulk dead and needed Kamala to... to maybe take the excess of Infinity energy Wanda couldn't take into her own body? I didn't understand why she wouldn't use Captain Marvel (unless zombie Carol is that locked in into fighting Ikaris that it makes it hard for Wanda to control her; too bad Monica never got to have her powers; also lol, the Nova Corps saw Carol was lost and said "nah, I'm good").
Powerscaling in this show is scuffed
The rest of the guardians that are not groot and rocket
F4
X men
Just to name a few
Agatha herself is a delight, still a very shitty person despite being the main character.
Ur throats. They should have chosen a different protagonist.
Adding: the subplot with the sorcerers was so weird because what do you mean only after Nova Corps was antagonistic, do you come to ask for help? What do you mean you're gonna do a frontal attack when the odds are 1:10000+OP reality bending witch? They never had a chance to win.