Anyone else feel like this FF movie handled powers and character dynamics way better than some recent MCU stuff?

First of all, I have to say that I really like the cinematography. It was a huge plus compared to other MCU movies. I liked the main cast, their interactions and the use of their powers. Only I wish Reed's powers were used more. I liked the aspect of "mankind relying to some heroes/analogue to fascism (a bit)". I would like this idea to be explored more. Overall, I enjoyed it far more than some other MCU movies of the phase 4 or 5. I hope they keep the cinematographer and the director for the future. Two questions: which power did the baby used in the end, according to comics? And which powers does the baby have in general?

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RichyWoo2025-09-26 08:24

I feel that Marvel were deliberately holding a lot back with the Fantastic Four's abilities so that they can really showcase the true upper limits of their powers in future films.

Kwilly4622025-09-26 12:05

I wanna see Reed stretch his eyes and puff out like a parachute in Doomsday

Edboy7962025-09-26 15:48

Then we got Galactus stretching Reed to where he was in pain and clothes ripping

TelenorTheGNP2025-09-26 16:00

This movie had a strong family dynamic and I think that was the focus, not just getting into fights. That fits with te actual comic.

aTreeThenMe2025-09-26 18:34

100% this is what the F4 are, and all previous films have gotten this very wrong. This was a great, great comic film.

alexjuuhh2025-09-26 17:50

Well they’d only had their powers four years in the movie, it makes sense that they haven’t figured out what their upper limits are yet. Like, Galactus seems to be their first planet-scale threat, having only dealt with the likes of Mole Man, Red Ghost and Giganto before. Not exactly villains for which they need to stretch the limits of their powers.

SirArthurDime2025-09-26 18:46

Yes. But that’s not saying a lot. Phase 4 and 5 famously handled character dynamics and powers terribly. I still don’t think it reached the levels of prime MCU but it’s as close as it’s been.

The baby is a reality warper and one of if not the most powerful character in the comics. That’s why Galactus wanted him. That coughing baby is a multiversal hydrogen bomb.

SharpshootinTearaway2025-09-26 10:02

>Two questions: which power did the baby used in the end, according to comics? And which powers does the baby have in general?

Franklin is a reality warper. He can make things happen by willing them into existence. At the end of First Steps, he didn't want his mom to die, so he rewrote reality so that she wouldn't be dead.

sonnyz2025-09-26 13:56

Why did she die in the first place? I didn't understand that part.

SharpshootinTearaway2025-09-26 14:00

She exhausted herself by overusing her powers. Galactus is an extremely powerful cosmic being, and absolutely enormous. He should be too heavy for Sue to push him like she did. She overdid it, and it killed her.

JohnBoston2025-09-26 20:11

Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted that is such bullshit. It was confusing to me too but I’d imagine some kind of internal hemorrhage due to overexertion. I think typically brain hemorrhage with people that use power central to the brain like Sue.

chomperstyle2025-09-26 20:16

Her brain melted from overexertion. Think of it like sprinting till your heart explodes.

elpajaroquemamais2025-09-26 21:40

Same reason you’d die if you ran a mile

NoLeadership22812025-09-26 10:07

I just really enjoy them using their powers in the most mundane scenes throughout this movie, one of the favorite mundane moments everyone loves is Bobby iced Logan’s coke in X2, and we’ve seen a lot of these stuffs in First Steps, top two is Johnny lights up his hand during curfew to keep working on decoding alien language and Sue turns invisible to dodge meetings lol

XandyCandyy2025-09-26 14:48

sue using her force fields as a magnifier for johnnys flames were genius, and johnny being able to absorb the flames out of a building on fire was insane i didn’t know that was a part of his powers. they NAILED sue and johnnys powers and reed and bens personalities

pseudo8972025-09-26 18:27

I loved the combo moves!

CyberKitten052025-09-26 12:25

No. It has some of the weakest Team dynamics out of any of the Fantastic Four adaptation I've seen.

Slow_Fish26012025-09-26 12:50

Honestly I have to agree with you. The FF from 2005 had a better dynamic.

Alarming-Address-9332025-09-26 13:38

genuinely how? could you explain?

Sea_Addition_16862025-09-26 15:08

Mr Fantastic seemed very weak compared to his other portrayals, on screen and in the comics.

Alarming-Address-9332025-09-26 19:08

how does that relate to team dynamics?

Sea_Addition_16862025-09-26 19:38

He barely did anything in a team setting and his powers were too weakly portrayed to even do much. The other three were done well imo showcasing there powers and teamwork.

Alarming-Address-9332025-09-26 20:45

So by "team dynamics" you're only talking about combat? Reed was literally the leader and made the plans

aduong2025-09-26 16:12

The siblings dynamic in the 00’s was much better. I just feel like Vanessa and Joseph were a bit too nice to each other but maybe that’s just me.

Also Reed and Ben being best friends was better Also that scene of Ben trying to pick up the ring then Reed picking up for him and saying something along the line of “i’ll fix you”, that was great stuff.

Ben in this movie felt like third wheel with no agency of his own

Alarming-Address-9332025-09-26 19:08

Ben also had his moments with Reed! Him and Reed had a convo about Reed not being smart in terms of anything outside science ("Can you cook? Drive?") and then Ben and Reed teased eachother for Reed failing his driving test. Also, Ben said that Reed should sleep when Franklin sleeps as he read a parenting book.

Also, I feel like as good of a movie the 2000 one was, First Steps had MORE sibling scenes than even RoSS did. I felt like the sibling-energy scenes were shoehorned in to let the audience know they were siblings, although they were good scenes!

El_Quetzal2025-09-26 17:19

This is 100% so true

Aromatic-Cupcake48022025-09-26 13:09

You’re thrown into the world 4 years later. There’s no gradual build and coming together that we see. Obviously there was a lot on the cutting room floor. They definitely do have a family dynamic but maybe not a great team one

clashrendar2025-09-26 13:19

I think this movie was close to perfection for the Fantastic Four as individual characters, as a team, and, most importantly, as a family.

I wish the movie were just a bit longer so we could have gotten to see more of the stuff that was condensed or cut out. I also wish that the digital release had extras like deleted scenes.

RealWonderGal2025-09-26 13:37

chiefranma2025-09-26 15:20

this honestly felt like a standalone film which is how most of the mcu titles excelled before the “mcu”. they were able to focus in on all the family dynamic and story and it wasn’t just a piece with a “don’t worry this just the beginning” background that’s in every mcu project recently

Ill3galAlien2025-09-26 16:31

Agree,

its because of the family dynamic.. and they didnt waste exposition time on how they got them or whatever, they trust that the moviegoing public knew what was up... which for the most part, was the case.

_________FU_________2025-09-26 16:36

Marvel has really fallen off hard. Even this movie wasn’t as good as the first few phases.

1. Easily defeats big bad
2. Dumb angry mob scene where they all shut up and quietly listen to the hero
3. Speed running genius. Fire guy figures out alien language because it was needed for the plot.

It’s wasn’t a terrible movie but I’m really getting tired of these low effort villains.

Bulletsoul782025-09-26 17:36

I feel like the Thing's powerset was underused a bit... But I guess his superpower is effectively just "clobberin'"

Bitter_Entertainer382025-09-26 17:37

I think this team had the best chemistry of the F4 teams we’ve seen, for sure. It definitely felt like we didn’t see them with their powers together as much. But I don’t mind it because it made Sue’s moment at the end pretty stunning.

Grayx_28872025-09-26 17:58

Well, compared to the 1994 movie, the Tim Story movies and Fant4stic... I say they got some of the character dynamics rights, but not 100% for the first family of superheroes. The heart is still there, but it just needs more focus on the family dynamics. Now, the powers being displayed in the movie, sadly. Only Reed Richards got the biggest shaft compared to the other three. Now, compared to what we have been getting from other MCU movies and DISNEY+ MCU shows in the past five years. It is a better science fiction movie than an actual superhero movie, but I will say that it did raise the stakes by putting the Fantastic Four in a situation where even they don't know what to do. Should they sacrifice Reed and Sue's son, Franklin, to save the billions of lives from their Earth? Or, should they let their Earth die but spare the life of Reed and Sue's son? Now, I don't see something like this happening in other movies like Captain America: Brave New World, or Black Widow (2021), or Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, or Thor: Love and Thunder or the Marvels. Hell, not even the Thunderbolts* would do something like this because they don't have the balls to even challenge them selves as actual characters in their own movie. So, it's kind of a tough one for me to say.

theperipherypeople2025-09-26 18:05

Watched it again (3rd time) yesterday, and yeah, I really love this movie.
Maybe some people expect everything to be dialed up to 11 but I love the more reserved nature to these characters and the story they told.
And I loved Galactus, I don't care, haha.
So much room to grow, so much more to show off in the future, excellent setup and start for this crew.

Also, super happy that apparently they got the production design crew from First Steps to do Doomsday?! Yessss

EmiAze2025-09-26 18:49

I hated this movie for the way they handled Reed. He was a straight dumbass the whole runtime. And an unconfident dumbass, which is even worse. Reed is supposed to be a genius who deludes himself into thinking he can solve it all because of his hubris. We saw none of that in this movie.

Fucking Johny Storm made smarter decisions than Reed … like what the fuck. Worst ff4 movie ever.

Alarming-Address-9332025-09-26 19:13

>Reed is supposed to be a genius who deludes himself into thinking he can solve it all because of his hubris. We saw none of that in this movie.

It seems we didn't watch the same movie because that is literally the entire plot of the first act. Reed confidently brought along his wife to Galactus thinking he could convince him not to devour earth and then hysterically panics ("We would know. I would know. I tested the child.") when he cannot figure out a way to solve anything (not being able to determine Galactus' age, not figuring out his son's capabilities despite him running tests)

igby12025-09-26 20:06

I must have watched a different movie than you.

MuNansen2025-09-26 19:55

It's a really well done movie. I care or know little to nothing about the FF characters before the movie, so it isn't a top MCU movie for me, but I gotta recognize game. They did a lot of subtly different things very well, and it easily had one of the greatest collections of acting performances. Vanessa Kirby, holy hell did she crush it.

SkyWalker5962025-09-26 20:49

There was literally a scene where Reed was in pain when Galactus was stretching him...

scottyk3182025-09-26 21:55

I thought the movie did an excellent job showing off all of their powers, especially Sue's force field abilities!