How different would MCU Spider-Man be if Disney bought the rights in 2015 instead of making a deal with Sony?
I think if Disney bought the SM rights in 2015, they would’ve done a more traditional take on the character, similar to YFNSM.
For me, it would’ve been the same movies, but I would have Spider-Man pops up in other NY-set projects:
Have him show up in TFATWS finale in a little cameo appearance.
Have him be in the Hawkeye finale, arriving too late to see the 30 Rock fight between the 2 Hawkeyes vs the Tracksuit Mafia.
He could be in M.O.M., helping Strange and Wong during the fight with Gargantos and thanking him.
He could’ve shown up in She-Hulk (like the OG plans).
Coogler is allowed to use Kraven in Black Panther, Norman Osborn to Iron Man, Tombstone, Hammerhead, The Maggia to Daredevil/The Punisher, Jessica Drew in The Marvels/Secret Invasion, Shocker as a minor foe to Ms. Marvel, etc.
In general, they would try to milk Spidey more as the face of Marvel instead of a supporting character, which is honestly a good thing.
For me, it would’ve been the same movies, but I would have Spider-Man pops up in other NY-set projects:
Have him show up in TFATWS finale in a little cameo appearance.
Have him be in the Hawkeye finale, arriving too late to see the 30 Rock fight between the 2 Hawkeyes vs the Tracksuit Mafia.
He could be in M.O.M., helping Strange and Wong during the fight with Gargantos and thanking him.
He could’ve shown up in She-Hulk (like the OG plans).
Coogler is allowed to use Kraven in Black Panther, Norman Osborn to Iron Man, Tombstone, Hammerhead, The Maggia to Daredevil/The Punisher, Jessica Drew in The Marvels/Secret Invasion, Shocker as a minor foe to Ms. Marvel, etc.
In general, they would try to milk Spidey more as the face of Marvel instead of a supporting character, which is honestly a good thing.
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And I think to keep the continuity, we'd have Andrew Garfield for a long time
Marvel during those times were focusing on keeping a proper timeline and hence any and all works would've considered canon. And Spider-Man being the popular hero of Marvel, surely he'd have played a great role in MCU
And as much as I love Tom Holland as Spider-Man, I think he would not have then be Spider-Man
But we wouldn't have experienced the joy of Morbin' Time, so...
Battleworld was the patchwork planet Doctor Doom created from the remains of these universes, serving as the setting where heroes and villains fought to reshape reality.
2. His rumored cameos in some shows would come to fruition.
3. Potentially No NWH but's that's fine by me.
4. Spiderman's minor villains can be more utilized flexibly.
5. Unfortunately, no Spiderverse animated movies but that's a worthwhile sacrifice for the long run.
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6. No YFN Spiderman animated show needed as it's basically Marvel Studios flexing how they'd use Spiderman if they had full control of the character from the beginning.
We’d definitely have Kraven in Black Panther (since Ryan Coogler wanted him to appear, citing Christopher Priest’s ‘98 BP run), Tombstone and Hammerhead alongside the Maggia in Daredevil/Punisher, Shocker as a minor villain for Ms. Marvel, Jessica Drew in Secret Invasion/The Marvels, Yuri Watanabe in Born Again instead of Angie Kim, etc.
And the DCU too, with Clayface and Dr. Phosphorus in Creature Commandos, and (recently) Sasha Bordeaux in Peacemaker S2.
I’m fairly confident that they didn’t do so because he’s still a rental character, and don’t want hinge their franchise on a character that Sony could take back
while he is now, that wasn't always the plan.
strange was turned into a focal point in no way home due to it and multiverse of madness being swapped around due to covid. pre-covid, he was going to have a much smaller role, due to being unwell from what happens in ds:mom. it was going to be america chavez - the character whose power is literally multiversal portals, who becomes a rookie sorcerer at the end of ds:mom - who tries to help peter and screws it up, bringing multiversal spidey characters to the mcu.
It's a bold move, but Disney could make Sony a stupid offer. Like people would question Disney's sanity. Something like $8 billion (or even more) just for the film rights to Spider-Man and all characters associated with him. Or maybe $5-6B and Sony can keep the animated feature (i.e. Spider-Verse) rights.
It may take a number of years, but Disney could totally see their ROI.
I do wonder if the whole MJ thing is because of Sony restrictions or if someone at Marvel just didn't want to deal with Spiderman's usual romances.
I'm almost positive the solo movies would have been proper solo. There's probably something in the contract requiring each Spiderman movie to have another MCU character play a major role.
JESSICA DREW, babes!!!!
aka the GOAT. Poor girl got stuck with rights stuff and none of Marvel or Sony can use her properly without changing her completely (you saw Spiderverse)
with excluding no way home events
More team ups
However, I do think he'd have a lot more minor appearances since they wouldn't have to negotiate for every non Spidey he appears in. Probably cameos in Multiverse of Madness, Thunderbolts, maybe even Daredevil: Born Again (depending on if Disney would want him appearing in a TV-MA series, though with his Marvel Zombies appearance, they'd probably be fine with it). But I do think his general storyline would be more or less the same.
but how successful it could've been? i feel like this would've been relegated to a series instead of the bigger screens
Apparently Ryan Coogler wanted to but was prevented from doing so due to the rights issues with Sony
People thought Marvel would go over all the traditional beats again but more like the comics when actually MCU Spidey is probably less like the comics than the 2 previous Sony incarnations. And not because of restrictions but more Marvel are trying to update Spider-man to their liking. To be more modern. Marvel don't want to repeat anything thats been done in previous Spiderman movies. Unless of course its like No Way Home and is actually part of those same things.
I’d like to think that removing no way homes success would have resulted in the multiverse saga being less nostalgia bait heavy, but that’s probably giving Marvel way too much credit.
I feel like Ant-Man is a good comparison to draw to Spidey with Ant-Man only really having some callbacks and a brief fight with Falcon as it's nods to shared continuity. If Spiderman had been totally in house I assume it would have a similar structure IE 95 per cent Spidey adventure and 5 pre cent references, cameos and maybe an established character to meet/fight.
Peter’s solo films because Sony demanded it too.