Need help figuring out what to watch, been out of the loop since endgame
hi all, i hope you are well!
I have been out of the loop for Marvel stuff since endgame. Life happened etc. and I just didn't watch movies for a long time. Now there is SO much going on.
Has there been a soft reboot?
What are the old and new timelines?
Who are the MAIN group now?
Where Should I start? Should i follow release order?
Are some movies worth splurging on, and some only for recaps?
These are the questions I have. Please help me, as I have see some very cool things and I want to see everything there is.
Cheers!
I have been out of the loop for Marvel stuff since endgame. Life happened etc. and I just didn't watch movies for a long time. Now there is SO much going on.
Has there been a soft reboot?
What are the old and new timelines?
Who are the MAIN group now?
Where Should I start? Should i follow release order?
Are some movies worth splurging on, and some only for recaps?
These are the questions I have. Please help me, as I have see some very cool things and I want to see everything there is.
Cheers!
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But to anwser some questions
1. No there has not been a reboot of any kind
2. Universes that are now canon to the MCU thanks to the current Multiverse Saga includes The Sam Raimi Spider-Man Universe, Marc Webb Spider-Man Universe, Sony's Marvel Universe, Spider-Verse, Blade Trilogy, Fox's Daredevil Duology, Fox's Fantastic Four Duology, Fox's X-Men Cinematic Universe
3. There is not a core Avengers team right now an important aspect of the Multiverse Saga is that the Avengers have disassembled for good and its all leading to the Avengers reassembling once more when the Multiverse starts to wreck havoc. Also there is not a main character ala Tony Stark and Steve Rogers in the Multiverse saga.
Now i will add that in the post-Endgame setting, they now have TV shows that are part of the narrative and the Netflix shows that were developed during the Infinity Saga are now connected to the newer stuff too
The Netflix defenders saga is mainline canon, though so far only daredevil (show, which includes punisher) is referenced. This will be expanded soon.
Everything else is tangentially coexisting in the same multiverse thanks to crossovers in Spider-Man NWH and cameos in Deadpool/Wolverine. This will be expanded in Doomsday / secret wars.
Except spider verse. That's one way - spider verse has a blink and you'll miss it reference to the MCU, but the MCU doesn't have any reference to spiderverse.
And the Sony marvel "Spider-Man" universe link is dubious at best, since they retconned it _again_ to not actually be that universe but just a similar one.
There has not been a soft reboot of any kind. There is been a lot of talk about a soft reboot after secret wars, but i think people are grossly overestimating the scope of any such things. Besides, that's 2.5 years out anyway. As such, there is still just the one timeline.
> Who are the MAIN group now?
There isn't one. There hasn't been a grand team up movie since endgame, which is one of the big complaints. In the most recent movies there have been references to some teams forming, but we'll see them in Doomsday.
> Where Should I start? Should i follow release order?
Always go with release order unless you're doing a novelty release rewatch. The only thing out of order is black widow, which takes place just before civil war. But even then, the after credits scene takes place in release order, so watch it in that order.
> Are some movies worth splurging on, and some only for recaps?
This is a surprisingly loaded question and it depends on who you ask. Personally i can't stand thor: love and thunder (th4r), but thoroughly enjoyed the Marvel's, ant man 3, and eternals (even though acknowledge their issues and the wasted potential).
A lot of people dislike eternals and the Marvels.
Shang chi gets a lot of praise. Spider Man NWH and Deadpool/wolverine are great if you love cameos and crossovers.
On d+, that's another loaded question. Wanda vision is phenomenal, Loki is really good. Secret invasion is absolutely terrible, don't bother with it.
You only need to watch spiderman no way home, Doctor Strange and the multiverse of Madness, Deadpool x Wolverine, and Fantastic Four. Thunderbolts if you enjoyed all those.
Coming next year, we have *Spider-Man: Brand New Day* starring Tom Holland, as well as *Avengers: Doomsday*, the first Avengers movie since Endgame’s release (and part one of a story arc that will continue a year later in *Avengers: Secret Wars*), so based on the confirmed cast for those two films, here’s what you should probably watch first:
- The Falcon and the Winter Soldier (miniseries; 6 1-hour episodes)
- Loki (season 1; 6 1-hour episodes)
- Black Widow (film)
- Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (film)
- Hawkeye (miniseries; 6 1-hour episodes)
- Spider-Man: No Way Home (film)
- Thor: Love and Thunder (film)
- Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (film)
- Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (film)
- Loki (season 2; 6 1-hour episodes)
- Deadpool & Wolverine (film)
- Captain America: Brave New World (film)
- Daredevil: Born Again (season 1; 9 1-hour episodes)
- Thunderbolts* (film)
- The Fantastic Four: First Steps (film) (not yet available on Blu-ray/Disney+)
- Daredevil: Born Again (season 2; 8 1-hour episodes) (not yet released)
- Punisher Special Presentation (1-hour special; this one doesn’t have an official title yet) (not yet released)
Some projects that can provide additional context for the above list (none of these are strictly necessary)
- the Fox X-Men series (films)
- Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man trilogy (films)
- Fantastic Four (2005) and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007) (films)
- The Amazing Spider-Man series (films)
- Venom: Let There Be Carnage (film)
- Daredevil (2015) (seasons 1-3; 13 1-hour episodes each)
- Ant-Man and the Wasp (film)
- Spider-Man: Far From Home (film)
- She-Hulk: Attorney At Law (miniseries; 9 30-minute episodes)
- Echo (miniseries; 5 1-hour episodes)
I hope this helps, and if you want to watch more of the things I haven’t covered, just let me know, and I can give you a rundown of the other stuff as well!
(Edit: forgot about one show)