How would you bring back the Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. cast the way No Way Home and She-Hulk bought back Daredevil?

I think that a DaredevilxQuake team up episode in Daredevil: Born Again Season 3 would be cool, or have Quake as a member of the anti-Fisk group we first saw at the end of Season 1, but there might not be space for her. LMD Coulson in Vision Quest would be cool, or Vision bringing in Fitz for some technical help might be nice.

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DJTLaC2025-09-25 08:46

I wouldn't. It had a full run and it doesn't need to be brought back. It moved on from the main MCU and had an entire story of it's own. Pulling any of it back from that would be a disservice.

smileymn2025-09-25 08:49

Rumors are that Vision Quest will bring back AoS characters. I can see Fitz Simmons at a minimum having a tech related issue tracking down Vision, working on him, etc…

BackgroundWindchimes2025-09-25 08:57

To be fair, there’s been rumors about Marvel bringing them back since Endgame.

“I heard AoS is gonna play a part in defeating thanos. I think fitz and Simmons will help build the time travel and they’ll run into Coulson in the past”.

It’s usually just AoS fans theorizing ways to make their favorite show canon.

smileymn2025-09-25 09:00

The only main rumor I heard was Quake in Secret Invasion, or maybe one of them in Dr. Strange 2. It does seem the last phase of Marvel has been all about interconnecting various non MCU marvel properties into the MCU (Netflix, Fox universe, Spidermen, etc…). Now since that has happened I wouldn’t be surprised for AoS to be reintroduced, even if only 2-3 of the characters in a tv show.

BackgroundWindchimes2025-09-25 09:13

But the characters being reintroduced were either wildly unpopular like Elektra or wildly popular with the mainstream audience. You can a quick scene of Kelsey Grammar as Beast and almost everyone will “holy shit! It’s beast!” Same with Topher as Spider-Man. Meanwhile if they did that with anyone besides Coulson from AoS, it’d be like when the kid from Ironman 3 was in Tony’s funeral pan, that “alright…who the fuck is that?”.

Not saying they’re unknowns but there’s no way that May or Daisy will randomly appear and not confuse a solid 85% of the audience.

Neveronlyadream2025-09-26 02:18

Yeah, it's going to be a problem.

People really forget not everyone watches everything and a lot of the casual MCU fans haven't bothered watching anything but the movies. It could be an issue, because AoS is in a weird place. Bringing the characters back is fine, but then you have to explain to the casual audience who they are and why they should care even though there are seven seasons of a show explaining all of it.

The counterpoint to that is that people have forgotten so many characters already that even when they do show up, the audience has no idea who they are because it's been a decade since their last appearance, so might as well just add characters back in.

CareerMilk2025-09-26 05:26

Honestly I think FitzSimmons would be fairly easy to introduce to new audiences. They're just a science couple with a daughter. Do they have back stories? Sure, but it's all easily siloed off.

Neveronlyadream2025-09-26 07:25

I'm on the fence about it. FitzSimmons I'm more on the side of they should just bring them in, have them be a science couple, and just not explain it further. If you're not familiar, fine. You don't need to be.

It's more bringing LMD Coulson in or May or Daisy. Especially when they haven't explained LMDs, that there was a splinter of SHIELD still active, or that Inhumans are even a thing. Daisy, at least, can be handwaved away. But Coulson is absolutely going to need some explaining if you want it to be AoS Coulson.

CareerMilk2025-09-26 08:22

100% agree on LMD Coulson and the others. I’d like to believe you could maybe get away with Mack, but random guy people have never heard of leading rebuilt shield is probably too much

BackgroundWindchimes2025-09-26 07:01

That’s the downfall of this fandom. It’s full of diehard people that watch everything, watch YouTube trailer breakdowns, and love to know everything.

During MoM, I said that if you didn’t watch Wandavision, the sudden shift to evil was handwaved away in a cryptic “after what happened in westview…”. Meanwhile you’re still wondering “she’s evil, she apparent had kids that weren’t real and she read from some book…off screen?!”. This sub said that it made perfect sense and they properly explained it while forgetting it made sense to them because they watched wandavision.

Neveronlyadream2025-09-26 07:22

I had someone like that yesterday on a post about Life Model Decoys and people saying they should just bring the LMD Coulson back. I commented that, aside from the mainline MCU never having referenced AoS and there only ever being *one* joke line about LMDs in the last 20 years, it would take a lot of explanation.

Of course, they argued that it made total sense, AoS is 100% canon to the MCU, and there are no problems introducing a get out of jail free card to the writers to undo any death that they didn't like or tested poorly.

What's even weirder is that even a lot of the most diehard MCU fans who consume all the media also never read a single issue of the comics. It's always funny to reference an issue of the comics or an old storyline and have someone telling you you're an idiot and you're wrong, because it never happened.

Gemnist2025-09-26 04:14

To be MORE fair, Endgame had James D’Arcy reprising his role as Jarvis from Agent Carter, which was tied back into Agents of SHIELD in the latter’s final season.

BackgroundWindchimes2025-09-26 06:54

Except audiences didn’t need to have watched Agent Carter to get the reference.

Jarvis was the name of his personal AI assistant, his virtual butler before becoming Ultron. So even if you didn’t know he was reprising his role, audiences still knew “oh shit, that’s where Tony got the name Jarvis. He probably raised Tony after his parents died”.

Gemnist2025-09-26 06:56

…It’s still a reference regardless. And to my earlier point, it essentially canonizes Agents of SHIELD further.

VicRamD2025-09-27 18:45

No, the crossover doesn't even involv Jarvis since the events of the crossover are way after the end of Agent Carter, not even counting that is a different timeline since the villains changed a lot

Mr_Jensen2025-09-26 03:47

I’ve seen so many spoilers and theories but I’ve not seen that, and I’m a huge AoS fan.

Elote_Verde2025-09-26 05:12

Iirc, the leak said AoS fans would get “a small win”. I see that less as a full on cameo, and probably just an unambiguous callback to something from the show. My bet is Aida or Coulson on a list of known AI or something, like on a monitor or something, as much as I’d love more than that lol

accidentsneverhappen2025-09-25 08:52

SHIELD movie

KantoTapsi8882025-09-25 09:15

Secret Invasion Season 2. Wake Maria Hill up from the Framework, and have the SHIELD team in there. Explain that they are running simulations (full season 1 of Secret Invasion) to get ahead of the Skrulls.

From there, explain throughout the season the history of the show, with callbacks, etc.

I'll send an invoice, Kev

marvelcomics222025-09-25 09:47

I like the concept, but Secret Invasion as a show is a really bad idea

KantoTapsi8882025-09-25 11:10

It's still canon. And it'll merge/retcon the ending of AoS and the Secret Invasion. Bring back the surviving characters of AoS and all the characters from Season 1 of Secret Invasion.

Isolate the story to underground networks, and cold war , spy-on-spy , double cross this and that, and GET POLITICAL (ik, in my Marvel series, not gonna happen) then you'll get a semi-faithful adaptation while incorporating characters that are neglected by the big budget movies. Namely, let Quake and Yo-yo interact with the Defenders, Cloak and Dagger, and Runaways, the 'heroes' that won't be compromised since the Skrulls will angle for Hulk, Cap, Thor, etc.

marvelcomics222025-09-25 11:32

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KantoTapsi8882025-09-25 12:25

Not with that attitude. Haha.

Also, there should be a revolving door for this Season 2 to 7 of Secret Invasion. First, it's the AoS, then FitzSimmons and Yo-yo are written out properly, while the rest Quake, Mac, Etc. along with Fury, Hill, Giah, teams up with the Runaways for Season 4 because of Plot reasons,

In the bulk of Season 4, you semi-retire some of the Runaways, send Nico to Kamar Taj, LSD establishes a safe haven in Cali w Gertie, etc, while the team then moves to Season 5 with The Defenders and C&D , establish a stronghold , then that's it, S6 and S7, the Invasion is still happening, and the mimics are still battling it out but by that point, we have heroes who can believably go toe-to-toe with the Skrulls using tech.

marvelcomics222025-09-25 14:43

That would actually be really cool

ProblematicPenguins2025-09-26 01:47

You forgot to include bringing the Inhumans in in your shitpost.

KantoTapsi8882025-09-26 07:58

Yeah. I'd keep 'em. One's exiled inside their castle on the moon, and the rest are hiding in Hawaii.They're easy to include.

AnonymousFriend802025-09-26 05:17

Have you not heard of a show having a bad first season but going on the turn things around. Hell, you mentioned one in your very own topic here.

andoesq2025-09-26 05:11

The quality of SI was about on par with AoS season 1....

But both are bad ideas

marvelcomics222025-09-26 13:38

That is such as stupid thing to say. Secret Invasion is only on par with Inhumans. AoS is leagues better than it.

BaronZhiro2025-09-27 17:15

AoS’ first season, though annoying at times, all built up to a story that made deep sense and was tremendously rewarding in the end.

I.e., not even remotely as flawed and worthless as *Secret Invasion*.

Notably too, Fury in AoS’ first season was consistent with the character we’d seen in the movies. Again, quite unlike *Secret Invasion*.

AnonymousFriend802025-09-26 05:16

The ideas and plot of the show were solid. I was just implemented badly.

chewywheat2025-09-25 09:28

I feel like, at this point in the MCU, the only way to bring back the original cast is to treat like the show didn’t happened. A reboot at the bare minimum. That way the characters are not tied to any one team (like it won’t be a surprise to see Quake as an agent of SWORD or SABER or even some freelance Agent).

TheJack0fDiamonds2025-09-25 09:47

Let the show rest. Unlike the others, this show ran its course for many seasons. Ships sailed and that’s okay.

NegotiationLate85532025-09-26 04:20

Agreed. It was actually a nice thing to see it get more comfortable in its own skin too as it went along. Essentially it felt less try hard in efforts to be connected to the MCU.

shanejayell2025-09-25 10:11

Use them in Secret War, reveal that SHIELD later seasons were off in another dimension. (Brcause they don't fit with MCU canon after Winter Soldier.)

marvelcomics222025-09-25 10:45

They do. After The Winter Soldier, S.H.I.E.L.D. was rebuilt by Coulson and his team.

shanejayell2025-09-25 11:03

I know? I saw the show. But none of the events in SHIELD were referenced in the films, and the only related stuff was Nick Fury and Maria Hill, neither of whom were in SHIELD, just operating on their own.

marvelcomics222025-09-25 11:06

Just because it's not mentioned, it doesn't mean it's not canon. At the moment, AoS, Agent Carter, Inhumans, Runaways, and Cloak & Dagger, are in a state of Schrödinger's Canon, where they are canon and not canon at the same time, until someone (Feige or Winderbaum) comes out and gives an official statement.

shanejayell2025-09-25 11:12

Actually one if the official books said it's not canon. But obviously, you do you.

marvelcomics222025-09-25 11:33

Oh, Marvel Studios: The Official Timeline? The book that said they don't have everything in the 616 timeline, and also didn't include the Netflix shows?

jmoney7772025-09-25 12:21

Didn’t Season 5 acknowledge Thanos’s invasion of Earth but then Season 6 completely ignored the snap despite the timeframe logically being during the blip by then? And when Jeph Loeb was asked about it he said “let’s let the time lords figure it out?” That sounds the exact opposite of canon.

marvelcomics222025-09-25 12:25

S6 is set during the Blip, but they don't mention it because it's not their problem. Daredevil kept of Daredevil-ing during the Blip. What were they expected to do? Stop Thanos? Help the Avengers? There was nothing they could do, and all of them were spared, so it's fine. The writers of Echo probably forgot the Blip happened, or maybe they didn't, and showed everyone continuing with their lives during that period, and it's not hard to assume that that's what the agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. were doing. Saying it's in a different timeline overcomplicates things.

jmoney7772025-09-25 12:32

Okay, that is a plausible explanation. But I don’t believe that was the intent at all. If that was the original plan all along then there would be no need for Jeph Loeb to say “I’ll let the time lords figure it out” which sounds like something you say when there’s timeline contradictions but you don’t want to deal with addressing it yourself. In his mind there were continuity errors. Your explanation is fine and plausible, but it’s definitely not something Jeph Loeb & the writers intended - in his mind the snap just didn’t happen in AoS.

WD_G2025-09-26 01:18

Moon Knight didn't reference the Blip either

Madmonkeman2025-09-26 01:39

So far Moon Knight hasn’t referenced anything and there’s been no references to Moon Knight either.

marvelcomics222025-09-26 13:40

Unless you count a GRC poster in the background of a shot as a TFATWS reference.

VicRamD2025-09-27 18:50

Considering the kind of things the Agents achieve in the series, it seems like their type of problem

Big_Epsilon2025-09-25 10:15

I don’t think I’d make a big deal of it. Depending on who would come back, you make them the people the main characters speak to about things, like there always are in these films. You’d think, for any threat that hasn’t appeared out of nowhere, someone else has been doing the work before you get a superhero in.

May could easily fill a similar role to the Sabra character in Brave New World. Cookson can be the on earth presence for Fury, if he’s ‘away’ (not worth spending the money on).

These characters that keep the world interconnected could easily be our team.

FreakDeckard2025-09-25 10:44

SHIELD movie with maria hill from Tahiti

ABBJ552025-09-25 11:01

I wouldn't do it

MsAndrea2025-09-25 11:52

Post *Secret Wars*, when the multiverse is combined, they can be brought back into the fold and used however they want. I wouldn't be surprised if *Vision Quest* involved Vision travelling to different realities, so that we meet them again before that happened, so that Secret Wars isn't the first time we see them again.

r01-85062025-09-25 13:30

Easy. They're just back after the "reboot". Either still members of SHIELD or of a successor to it, or distributed.

DigificWriter2025-09-25 17:14

Seriously, people.

Just accept that AoS isn't Canon anymore (if it ever was, which is debatable) and that if it does ever get (re)added to the Canon, it will most likely be considered a Multiversal property like Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

Ill-Sector12072025-09-25 18:13

leave it. bury it.

Captain-Wilco2025-09-26 01:56

I’d probably reference them rather than full inclusions, just to shut the canon deniers up

FPG_Matthew2025-09-26 02:00

I’d be happy to have any characters back, as long as they don’t pull a Foggy and kill one of them off 15 minutes in just for funsies and shock value, no matter how much they try and say it was for the story

Like, I wanna see Daisy and Fitz-Simmons again in a show (or the big screen) 1 million percent. But, they had a perfect ending as well. If the new writers are gonna throw all that away because it wasn’t their work, and have some irreversible damage happen, then nah I’d rather they keep their sunset ending

But it also shouldn’t be hard to include these characters without butchering the end, helping introduce to an audience who never saw AoS, and give a wink/nod to the fans who do knows these characters.

Creative_Toe_5442025-09-26 11:32

hey i would spoiler this just in case

marvelcomics222025-09-26 13:39

Subreddit rules say TV spoilers expire after a week. I think they're fine.

dpittnet2025-09-26 02:22

I wouldn’t

elissass2025-09-26 02:30

Secret invasion would have been perfect on doing that

skateboardude7612025-09-26 02:31

I wouldn’t…

MrKyurem20052025-09-26 02:37

I could see them bringing back Agent Coulson, Daisy/Quake and Robbie Reyes (Ghost Rider) sometime in the future for special appearances. But please don't bring back FitzSimmons, I know they would find *some* way to ruin their perfect story if they ever have them show up again.

marvelcomics222025-09-26 13:41

I would like to see them as fun cameos, tech support or something along those lines.

MrKyurem20052025-09-26 13:45

I guess they could work as a small cameo. FitzSimmons as tech support would be legendary, lol.

Krimreaper12025-09-26 02:51

Just bring them back in Secret Wars and have them back in the main continuity after the merge. Because whether people like it or not that show is not on the sacred timeline. And before anyone says but they crossed over with the movies, they are tons of adjacent timelines to the 616, as shown in Loki that have slight variations.

nacnudllah2025-09-26 02:59

Put them on “The Shield” - the wall around the zombie pole of Battleworld. Then roll them back into the MCU as a connective tissue afterward.

Assassiiinuss2025-09-26 03:27

Ideally? An Agents of S.W.O.R.D. show, but that will never happen. I think Daisy/Quake is "cool" and unique enough to be introduced to new audiences, so she can show up as a minor character in pretty much any Marvel project without any setup or much backstory. For other characters it's pretty different. LMD-Coulson would be really confusing. I guess Fitz-Simmons could show up as scientists, too. Those two work without any backstory as well.

LittleCupcake24782025-09-26 03:40

If Daisy Johnson were in *Secret Invasion* like it was rumored, perhaps the show would've been much better. Heck, having her in a hypothetical Season 2 is why I feel it would be a good idea.

BuffaloNo90112025-09-26 03:44

This is the ONLY correct answer !!

NegotiationLate85532025-09-26 04:17

I think the MCU should go ahead and establish S.W.O.R.D since I felt they got rid of S.H.I.E.L.D way too early. Loved the Hydra twist in TWS but felt it was still too soon.

stefan7712025-09-26 06:43

Are we still pretending AoS and Daredevil were removed from Canon?

RabbiShekky2025-09-26 07:46

Do your own writing, Feige.

CyberKitten052025-09-26 19:19

I don't think I would full-on bring its story beads back and have them be relevant to the main story; a big problem woth the Multiverse Saga is it feeling disconnected and every movie feeling like it requires a bunch of homework beforehand, and a big part of that was the show reauirement. And those were just miniseries, AoS is a 7-season full TV show whose seasons individually take place between other movies all across the Infinity Saga.

I think there are good middle ground options. For example, bringing Daisy back in Sam's Avengers, introduce her as an Inhuman Agent of SHIELD whose past is classified and have her make vague references to the show, and say Sam had Fury recommend her to him. That way audiences don't need to be confused about her any more than they were with Hawkeye and Black Widow in Phase 1, but anyone who's interested in her can discover all the content she appeared in before.

I think it's a go big or go home situation - Even outside of the Homework issue, any plotline that would include the AoS characters that isn't in the spirit of what I suggested would just add more bloat to Doomsday and Secret Wars which already have to cover so much stuff in them. Other than that, I think just background references would be nice, like with Kamala's SWORD profile calling her an Inhuman in The Marvels. But that still keeps things really vague and may not be satisfying to fans of the show. The way I see it, yeah, fully canonizing the show would be a bit messy, but the franchise is already getting soft-rebooted soon anyway, and it's something a lot of people want to see. So I think they should just go for it. Even though they won't.

Head-Praline-12822025-09-26 22:27

I personally like the idea of teasing their return for a few things (but keep it mainly TV) and building hype, I also like the idea they are somehow hooked up to the Framework and unaware that their events were parallel to MCU but not quite same, Fringe style in terms of merging dimensions, but with the technology twist, yet some did happen in MCU:

Ironheart Season 2 - Ghostrider (Robbie Reyes) shows up in Cameo Appearance looking for Mephisto, says he has friends but they are 'plugged-in' to another adventure.

Daredevil Born Again Season 3 - Reference to Carl Creel

Vision Quest - White Vision searches for files on Vision's origins specifically Zola, Jarvis, and a few others leading to him discovering an old SHIELD base with references to the Lighthouse with a picture of Patton Oswalt

Throw in a few film teases:

Blade if it's ever made would be a different way to talk about them with Robbie Reyes if they needed allies on the way to Midnight Suns - "a team that's dealt with the Darkhold" for a cameo discussion

and/or

X-Men (Untitled) tie into the Sentinel Project relate it to the Framework, SHIELD agents stuck to run simulations on how to defeat "Supers"

Then finally full TV reboot:

Agents of SWORD, a new show that explores the galaxy, incorporate Agent Woo, Agents of SHIELD as founders and a few leads not all, honor everything from WandaVision and it's history, and make them the agency a regular part of the MCU post-Secret Wars.

I personally would watch a world in which Agent Woo, Sharon Carter, Everett Ross, share screen time with Fitz Simmons, Quake, and LMD Coulson in an an interesting space-spy thriller show. If we threw in the less appreciated projects like Secret Invasion, Inhumans, Cloak & Dagger, Runaways, and Eternals it would be a way to ret-con those projects into a better adventure.

The characters do not need to interact with the films but the agency could. Use it to explore lesser known sides of the universe and Earth.

Imagine a full on Macguffin season or two, chasing plans (a la Andor) that leads into some big project with a tagline about "Many Agents died to bring us the schematics of Galactus's XYZ"

Able_Resident_12912025-09-27 00:03

Start by including Patton Oswalt in every show and movie as a different Koenig brother and go from there

Prior-Assumption-2452025-09-27 17:17

Just reinsert them in the rebooted timeline. No HYDRA infiltration and Quake is already an established powered agent.

LeCapitaine932025-09-27 19:21

Captain Marvel already brought back Coulson. The other characters aren't necessary

TowelShoddy61792025-09-28 22:09

I don't know how but all i want is getting Daisy and Coulson back

Forsaken_Club53102025-09-29 19:32

Nah the only characters worth bringing back are Fitz-Simmons or Robbie Reyes (Ghost Rider)

Coulson's story is well and truly over.