Just watched Fantastic Four...
Honestly? Kinda bummed I didn't watch it in Imax Cinema coz it has such incredible visuals and just overall much better than I expected. I'll be honest I kinda gave up on watching Marvel movies in cinema coz I've been consistently disappointed too many times to continue feeling like I'm wasting my money, so now I just wait until a movie on streaming. But this along with Thunderbolts, I actually wish I saw in Imax.
I LOVED Galactus! His first introduction where his eyes just popped, yo I got such a fright! Looking into the darkness trying to find him then BOOM! Excellent direction right there. I don't even mind that he wasn't as big as Arishem, he still looked amazingly terrifying and intimidating. Plus the actor's performance was incredible! I also really enjoyed Julia Garner's performance as Silver Surfer, she's so powerful! And so freakin fast, I had no idea Sylver Surfer flies at light speed! And speaking of light speed, as someone who's obsessed with all things space/planets/black holes etc, it was so beautiful to see so many concepts that I enjoy on screen.
The main 4 themselves were also perfect, Sue was my favorite ofcos and that scene of her pushing Galactus made me cry, it was just so touching and made me think of Wanda and how they completely ruined her character 😒 Anyway, Sue's determination to protect her baby was so well done I just couldn't help but burst into tears. I don't love the way they did her powers tho, and I do wish she and Reed used their powers just abit more. I also feel like the movie was too short, there's still soooo much I wanna see that I kinda wish it was a series instead of a movie. That Matt Shakman is truly a storytelling genius, I'll watch anything with his name on it. And he seems to be the only person at Marvel who knows how to do Wanda right lol okay I'll stop complaining about Wanda now 🙈
Anyway, I absolutely enjoyed this movie and looking forward to seeing them again, hopefully Doom doesn't put Sue under some stupid "dark corruption" where she starts murdering everyone 😒 okay I'm sorry I promise that was the last reference to Wanda 🙈. I might even go ahead and watch Doomsday in cinema, I just don't trust Marvel's quality anymore, especially after hearing how Doomsday was shot essentially with mostly fight scenes and no script, I like a good story as much as a good fight scene and Marvel used to be good at that balance, I don't know what happened but this movie gives me hope. Anyway thanks for giving this a read to anyone who read it, curious if anyone wants to comment? 😊
I LOVED Galactus! His first introduction where his eyes just popped, yo I got such a fright! Looking into the darkness trying to find him then BOOM! Excellent direction right there. I don't even mind that he wasn't as big as Arishem, he still looked amazingly terrifying and intimidating. Plus the actor's performance was incredible! I also really enjoyed Julia Garner's performance as Silver Surfer, she's so powerful! And so freakin fast, I had no idea Sylver Surfer flies at light speed! And speaking of light speed, as someone who's obsessed with all things space/planets/black holes etc, it was so beautiful to see so many concepts that I enjoy on screen.
The main 4 themselves were also perfect, Sue was my favorite ofcos and that scene of her pushing Galactus made me cry, it was just so touching and made me think of Wanda and how they completely ruined her character 😒 Anyway, Sue's determination to protect her baby was so well done I just couldn't help but burst into tears. I don't love the way they did her powers tho, and I do wish she and Reed used their powers just abit more. I also feel like the movie was too short, there's still soooo much I wanna see that I kinda wish it was a series instead of a movie. That Matt Shakman is truly a storytelling genius, I'll watch anything with his name on it. And he seems to be the only person at Marvel who knows how to do Wanda right lol okay I'll stop complaining about Wanda now 🙈
Anyway, I absolutely enjoyed this movie and looking forward to seeing them again, hopefully Doom doesn't put Sue under some stupid "dark corruption" where she starts murdering everyone 😒 okay I'm sorry I promise that was the last reference to Wanda 🙈. I might even go ahead and watch Doomsday in cinema, I just don't trust Marvel's quality anymore, especially after hearing how Doomsday was shot essentially with mostly fight scenes and no script, I like a good story as much as a good fight scene and Marvel used to be good at that balance, I don't know what happened but this movie gives me hope. Anyway thanks for giving this a read to anyone who read it, curious if anyone wants to comment? 😊
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King Kang ain't got shit on me
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With 2 'average' films...The Marvels and Capt 4.
Everything else has been fairly good, hell even their shoes has started getting pretty good again..
Agahtha
Iron heart.
All got positve feedback but where stomped on before they came out.
I thoroughly enjoyed Marvels and Agatha, plus Thunderbolts. Fantastic Four was prettier and more stylish than it was good. It was fine, a good enough summer movie, and better than previous FF movies, but largely forgettable and not terribly well written.
*"Oh, no, but how will I understand the plot of X movie Y years down the line?"*, I hear you asking. Simple: all the relevant information will be presented in the movie. You're not required to watch all MCU content.
I don't get this - do people complain that Tony Soprano is still a mobster by the end of the first season? Not to mention something drastic did happen to her at the end. So it makes no sense to say there's no progression.
I didn't love the show and thought it was just okay. I have plenty of problems with some of the story and characters, but people's criticisms often make me scratch my head, as if they are trying just making things up to criticize.
;)
These posts are all the same.
"Just saw The marvels, better than i thought"
"Just saw Thunderbolts, best movie ever, why was it rated bad"
"Just saw F4, wish I'd seeen it in theatres"
I'm also waiting for the Superman ones to come in.
I told so many people to go enjoy it on the big screen - its colorful, and popping and has fun action scenes and music.
Nope.
Now they'll all watch it on streaming and be like "hey, i actually liked that one. Wish I'd seen it in theatres"
Thunderbolts* was rated highly fyi
But you're right, it got a high rating, I remember.
True 😢
The past 3-4 years of Marvel Studios' movies and television shows have been pretty disastrous in terms of critical reception and financial performance. People thought they - or rather, Kevin Feige - had lost the magic. That was not the case.
Bob Iger pushed Feige to expand the Marvel Cinematic Universe as much as possible, and mostly to push more content to Disney+ for streaming revenue. As you can image, it's a huge undertaking as the president of a studio to handle just a few movies being made each year, but cranking out 2-3 movies plus 2-3 series each year is just entirely too much to oversee effectively.
Fast forward to now - audiences largely felt like there was just too much shit to watch in order to keep up with what's happening. The entire Infinity Saga (the first 19 MCU movies) never had more than 3 movies released a year, so it wasn't too hard for viewers to keep up.
The Multiverse Saga is 16 movies and 20 series. It's easily more than 3 times more "watch time" in hours in order to "keep up" with everything, and the timeframe is compressed - 8 years from start of Phase 4 to end of Phase 6. The Infinity Saga - Phase 1 to Phase 3 - was 11 years.
People just gave up.
Iger caused Marvel fatigue because at his core he's not about creating quality entertainment, he's about maximizing shareholder value - the same bullshit goal that ruins so many formerly great American companies. He wanted a content mill, not exceptional entertainment.
What's so frustrating is that if you create exceptional anything - entertainment, computers, phones, cars, etc., you won't have to worry about shareholder value because everyone will want the thing you're creating.
The movies I've watched at my local theater aren't bad, but I do enjoy watching them at home a lot better. Just a much better experience, better audio, big screen, just overall a better place to watch the movie. It's no IMAX, but it's pretty damn good. I think when I got to the point where "I wish I would have just watched this at home" was something I said, that was the end of the local theater for me.
and should be watched in theater so Marvel knows to make more good stuff like this, because money talks
but yeah...a lot people just decided "naaahhh I heard from my the loud Marvel movie haters on the internet that these are not good"
They show a lot more, originally meant to be 2.5 hours.
Then they cut scenes to fit it in 2 hours.
Deleted scenes are popping up all over - Mole Man and sue having a sub plot, the John malkovich subplot with the super apes, some more scenes of silver surfer and her home.
We'll get it eventually. It's all shot and edited, it exists.
They'll just release it when the time is right.
But pretty much everything was spot on. And the retro feel was tons of fun.
Between FF and Thunderbolts Marvel has me excited again.
Marvel needs to plan better and give their artists more time to polish. This saga has been a joke and a waste of resources.
There were literally 2 instances of anyone using their powers for anything (which were really phenomenal scenes) sandwiching an hour of mildly interesting but mostly forgettable "look at how the world is" where the only gripping thing was the civilians maybe possibly turning on them but somehow instantly *all* changing their minds from one speech.
It was 20 minutes of really cool and over an hour of forgettable okayness. Maybe it needed a B-plot or something.
This guy almost teleported a cosmic being to the far edge of the universe, I think Tony’s best and smartest idea was time travel in Endgame but if I’m not mistaken that was with the help of Scott Lang.
Aside from that it was great
why? the movie doesn't explain it. maybe it doesn't have to, but my wife had no idea what his motive was or why he is doing what he is doing. it's clear from the movie he wants franklin to replace him, but again, it comes down to why is he?
with no context to the comics, the movie doesn't explain it at all. maybe it doesn't have to and it doesn't matter. but it makes him a lot less compelling of a threat.
the comics also don't really contextualize Galactus outside of some "hey here's a little detail" stuff.
fundamentally (in both the comics and the movie) he's a force of entropy and if that doesn't compel you outright, no amount of character-building or lore will.
I think that's an issue with a lot of media discussion in modern times, people tend to overanalyze and overthink everything.
I think they deserved a trilogy before doomsday, Subterranean people should have been first, Silver Surfer was great but I think she deserved her own movie maybe the second and Galactus should have been the culmination of this trilogy. It's a shame that we are already going to see them be an important part of Doomsday 4 years later when we barely got to see them, they are rushing too many introductions.
Loved how the space scenes were done. It felt like Interstellar in some areas.
1. Green screening has to be better, but that's increasingly an industry wide issue.
2. An extra 5 minutes of screen time could have made Reed and Johnny's arcs more complete. Reed needed more time struggling with his morality and Johnny needed to have his linguistic abilities and intelligence a bit more explored.
Thats kind of it (IMO)
Otherwise, Sue as the moral center was great - an opposite to the model of motherhood presented by Wanda.
Ben was very well done - he felt like he should have, with the sweater vests and holding the baby and being part of the family. (A bit more time on his forgiveness of Reed would have been fun, but was otherwise fine at least from a fan's perspective.)
Galactus felt dangerous and merciless. The surfer was well presented.
B at worst.
Its seem more that with Doomsday that Marvel wants to give themselves the room to change things if they want, instead of just sticking to what they already wrote. thus the "They are still writting it" comments we heard, which is consistent with something Feige said earlier in that he wants to always have the room to change stuff if they think this new idea is better than the one they had originally planned
But yeah thing is that Marvel right now due to Iger and Chapek thinking Disney+ was the future of the company, demanded Marvel to put more focus on quantity over quality, but they have released that they need to cut back and focus again on quality after seeing the damange this decision did, so we are already seeing the fruits of that decision (though we still have to get through the very few last remnants from that era, like Marvel Zombies is one of the last ones from the quantity era)
First, I like an anachronistic setting, but the idea that they have FTL and are still using analog formats like magnetic tape and records kind of ruined my suspension of disbelief. It feels weird to say that's what did it in a movie with a space god baby, a living rock etc. but for some reason, that's what did it for me.
Secondly, the original idea of teleporting the entire Earth was a bit much for me too. Especially with the idea of conserving power... Did they build massive lossless batteries to store all that energy? Going back to my first point, I feel like these things bother me more because it's supposed to be a science-y based setting.
I was also shocked that a society that had created FTL travel wasn't using it much more often, especially since it looks like the F4 Earth isn't post-scarcity. Although that could be explained by Reed being the only one to figure it out and he's just not sharing it with the rest of the world.
On that note, one thing I *did* really like was the FTL warp bubble and it being pretty close to ideas and theories of how FTL would work in real life.
Really, it's just the overall writing for the plot. Everything else about the film I loved.
who's gonna post this next week
Ava Starr is the best
And I got to enjoy it like that twice.
But I have no sympathy for people who chose not to, lol. The reviews from critics and audiences were very good.
Then he was just a big dude.
I'll be excited to see where it goes from here