I’m about 2-3 years behind on MCU but finally watched The Marvels and I’m very confused on the negativity, what a pleasant surprise this movie was.

Genuinely enjoyed it, the dynamic between the 3 was great, action was decent, yeah it’s a bit weird and non sensical at times but overall it’s a very fun movie

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Morgoth18142025-09-24 00:37

Thought it was decent. Wasn’t this abomination the YouTubers were saying it was.

TorontoDavid2025-09-24 00:57

But you see, have you considered this argument:

M-SHE!!!!-U!!!!!

HyperlinksAwakening2025-09-24 01:03

Guys, is it gay to watch a movie with fEmAlEs?

TheDesktopNinja2025-09-24 01:10

Yes. You should only watch movies with big burly sexy men. Very straight.

DelcoPAMan2025-09-24 01:19

With tears streaming down their faces as they watch only men.

evelution2025-09-24 02:39

Brokeback Mountain is the straightest romance film ever made.

TelenorTheGNP2025-09-24 02:08

Remember everyone - when you want people to think you've never seen a vagina up close, use the term "Mary Sue".

Endgam2025-09-24 08:34

To be fair, there ARE characters deserving of that term.

Moreso from Japanese media than western live action though. *Oh, and there are way more Gary Stus than Mary Sues.* *The modern anime industry thrives on self-insert harem protagonists.*

Clamsadness2025-09-24 16:37

Agreed, there definitely are Mary Sues. I really only get annoyed by people using that term when it’s clear they have a double standard. Big one for me is people hating on Rey from the Star Wars sequels for being a Mary Sue while completely fawning over Luke and Anakin. That one’s a series where it’s canon that some people have these abilities that make them more skilled and able to do things that others can’t. There’s plenty of problems with the Star Wars sequels, but Rey being portrayed consistently with other Jedi is not one.

TheObstruction2025-09-25 18:27

Luke gets his ass beat and fails to do basic Force stuff on a regular basis, even after getting some training. Anakin only had intuition that helped him drive vehicles before getting his training, which Han also has, frankly. Rey did mind tricks and beat a trained Sith warrior, while having no experience with the Force or a lightsaber. She is not portrayed consistent with other Jedi.

AnonymousFriend802025-09-24 06:53

Probably the same 'Tubees who were also against Elemental as well. I watched it on a flight. Then went looking online for the reasons for the hate. First vid had people in the comments saying they were happy they didn't listen to the complainers because it was an excellent film.

CaptHayfever2025-09-24 18:26

Elemental suffered from horrible marketing. The word-of-mouth on that one was basically "the trailers *completely* misrepresented the film."

al_ien50002025-09-24 00:38

It's amazing what widespread sexist misinformation can do, isn't it3

General-Gyrosous2025-09-24 15:26

The movie is the definition of an uninspired mediocre cashgrab. Sometimes things like this simple

ThisGuyHaris2025-09-24 00:38

Enjoyable to watch in the moment, exciting post credit scene. Very forgettable experience otherwise

Clewtesu2025-09-24 00:39

Probably a mixture of sexism and racism from THAT part of the marvel community. Two of the main characters are POC and all three are women

Desperate_Purpose4192025-09-24 00:53

YUP

ubutterscotchpine2025-09-24 01:13

Not only two of the three main, but i believe the villain is POC, Kamala’s family are POC, Nick Fury is POC. The two SWORD agents are POC. Valkyrie is POC. Aladna prince is POC. I’m pretty sure Carol Danvers is actually the only white main character in that film. Now add in all three heroes being women, the villain being a woman, and phew.

Which is a shame, because the love and effort that Nia put into this film is insane.

Clewtesu2025-09-24 01:21

Exactly

Ericandabear2025-09-24 05:12

Damn I never even realized the cast was this diverse. Its a shame this movie is so underrated.

CaptHayfever2025-09-24 18:34

SeekerVash "mistakenly"^* thinks the Best Picture rules apply to *every* Oscar category, when that is not the case at all.

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^* ^(not mistakenly; he's intentionally spreading misinformation)

Overwatch32025-09-24 01:44

You think racism and sexism are SOLEY responsible for the movie being negatively recieved when Captain Marvel (female lead with 2 black sidekicks) and Black Panther 2 (black female lead and 99% POC cast) both made around a billion dollars and were released within 5 years of the Marvels? Do you truly believe that?

Rh0rny2025-09-24 02:42

its cope, MCU fans are like swifties don't bother

Weekly_Opposite_14072025-09-24 01:51

A movie death sentence in this MAGA climate

Melodic-Cycle39942025-09-24 02:03

Yeah and without the three leads getting a proper press tour and sell the movie through their chemistry it was always an uphill battle

GarySoneji2025-09-24 00:39

Sometimes people get *real mad* when the movies dip (too far) into the comics.

Desperate_Purpose4192025-09-24 00:53

YUP

Then_Twist8572025-09-24 23:34

The Marvels is not an adaptation of any comic run. It’s an MCU-original story that is loosely inspired by scattered comic elements — some character names, artifacts, and fun nods — but all reshaped to serve the MCU’s continuity.

Phase 1, Winter Soldier, Civil War etc. were a lot closer to the actual comics.

Sol3Caul32025-09-24 00:40

It's good. There are worse MCU movies. Don't get the haters, it's like they just decide before that they are gonna hate something no matter what.

Weekly_Opposite_14072025-09-24 01:53

It’s like this in any fan community. Fans ruin ever.ry.thing.

ImDero2025-09-24 00:41

The baby flerken scene and the first space-swap fight scene were MCU gold. The story just didn't hold it together well.

RhysW11202025-09-24 01:07

I’ll agree the story was nothing, but the dynamic between the 3 was enough to carry it

xSaRgED2025-09-24 01:58

I’m still confused by the bilingual (singing/talking) line works.

Realistically, that’s my main and only problem with the movie.

GrimmSFG2025-09-24 11:09

I mean, it's not exactly the weirdest thing if we're looking at the comics.

I thought it was a little over the top, but I also think that helped set up some contrast... it was a pretty happy, innocent, weird little world and you don't want the kree destroying it. It also makes the kitten scene just a little less 'out there' by comparison.

My biggest problem with the movie was the villain was super one-note and totally forgettable, which is a pretty common thread of the MCU all the way through. For every thanos there's a whiplash.

DragonfruitDear91722025-09-25 05:21

I do feel like it was over the top and didn't sit right in this movie with those stakes and the villain they were trying to make.

But it is true, that it made the kitten scene seem actually believable. Kinda. More so.

But yeah, the villain and the story weren't there

SonicFlash012025-09-24 04:42

Might have helped if they didn't cut so much runtime

harricislife2025-09-24 21:01

I watched the movie a month or two back while in a hugely depressive episode, and I don't think I have laughed so hard watching a movie, maybe ever when the scene with the baby flerkens happened. It made me feel really happy for a while. The whole movie did, it was so charming and pure in a way, it felt nice.

mr_oberts2025-09-24 00:42

That movie was getting review bombed before it was released.

BobTheFettt2025-09-24 00:53

I remember seeing people complaining about the "writing" when the fucking *teaser* trailer came out

wandrin_star2025-09-24 01:38

“I can just already tell from the trailer that this movie will have terrible writing and the main characters are bad and unrelatable not because they’re women but because they’re just bad characters. REEEE”

Bcatfan082025-09-24 01:09

Same thing happened with Echo. Saw people shitting on it on Instagram a month before release.

chiefbrody622025-09-24 04:44

She-Hulk as well. It had a 3.5 or something on IMDb before a single episode aired.

Antrikshy2025-09-24 06:18

Ironheart too, obviously. It still has a very low rating and I think the show is phenomenal.

AOSaga2025-09-24 08:59

Agatha All Along got this treatment as well before it aired. It ended up being fantastic!

MrMono12025-09-24 07:55

And here I am thinking She-Hulk was one of the best things Marvel had released.

GrimmSFG2025-09-24 11:05

IMHO not "one of the best" but I definitely enjoyed it.

It was goofy and dumb but in a good way - and since it was pitched as a slice of life sitcom it SHOULD have been goofy and dumb. She-hulk has always been an 'inward reflection' kind of character so it makes sense that her show was so weird.

I don't think it "needs" another season, but if it got one I'd be watching.

CaptHayfever2025-09-24 18:27

I wouldn't say "one of the best". Some of the jokes just didn't land, & there were serious vfx integration issues. But it was a good time overall. :)

BobTheFettt2025-09-24 18:27

It was definitely a refreshing change of pace

Clamsadness2025-09-24 16:46

It’s happened to literally every female-led or black-led MCU project, but they always say they’re not racist or sexist.

chainsawwmann2025-09-24 00:42

I thought it was boring, almost fell asleep in the theatre watching it. Pretty short and a super weak villian, cant even remember her name off the top of my head. This was one of those marvel movies people just didnt watch, not that they actively rejected or anything.

upfromashes2025-09-24 00:44

Yep.

Stripe-Gremlin2025-09-24 00:46

I personally couldn’t get into it and I think the major issue for me was I watched it on the same day the Loki finale came out, so a lot of the issues became more glaring in comparison. Also didn’t help that the moment the musical sequence started I heard somebody in the cinema asking “what the hell is this?” under their breath

taviusparadise2025-09-24 00:46

same finally caught up today, the marvels was not bad at all.

nazia9872025-09-24 00:47

It was the result of a bunch of stuff unfortunately. Not so great reviews, the actors strike, a string of bad MCU projects being released, Brie Larson hate campaign, people believing they had to be up to date with ms marvel and WandaVision (it would help but wasn't necessary) All those things factored in.

RaptorKnifeFight2025-09-24 01:43

Your last point is a big one, I think. Two of the main characters were introduced in TV shows. Mainstream movie audiences didn’t know who they were. It felt like extra “homework” to learn enough going in to care vs. going in already knowing/caring if you had watched the shows.

That said, I did watch the shows and did like this movie. Best CM look too with the rolled up sleeves. Ms. Marvel was just so happy to be there it was infectious. Beastie Boys sound track. Overall good time.

AmarilloMike2025-09-24 03:01

To be fair, only one of the trio was introduced in the D+ shows, Ms Marvel, and she was given the most background stuff in the film. It was made very clear that Monica was the grown up version of the last Monica you saw in the films, which was set in the mid-90s. Sure, stuff happened to her in between but she explained that to Carol briefly, explaining it to us at the same time. You didn't need to watch Wandavision for The Marvels, and arguably you didn't need to watch h Ms Marvel either.

chiefbrody622025-09-24 04:35

Yeah exactly. Sounds like OP didn't watch either of those shows and I know a few people that hadn't watched either show either, and they understood the characters fine. They introduced Ms. Marvel real well at the beginning and did well with Monica as well.

MemoryLaps2025-09-24 06:36

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't this either an indictment of the shows, the movie, or both?

Good, fleshed-out characters that the audience can relate to and have an emotional connection with are a really big part of why many people enjoy movies.

Ms. Marvel had like 4 hours of total runtime. Skipping all of that *should* have a major negative impact on how deeply some viewers will be able to relate, understand, and connect with her character.

If it *doesn't,* then it suggests that either the show wasn't very good *or* Ms Marvel is a pretty shallow character (maybe both).

AnonymousFriend802025-09-24 06:49

Go touch some grass, bro. It's a superhero movie. As long as everything is written well enough, people will be fine. It's people like you who make other so hesitant in jumping into these movies and comics. You want us to go and read decades of history before just opening a book.

GrimmSFG2025-09-24 11:00

So, not disagreeing (Monica was introduced in CM 1) but it's wandavision where you see her get her powers and stuff, so without watching that it's an odd jump (even with the dialogue) to see her grown up with powers.

IMHO Ms Marvel is less jarring - even if you didn't watch the series it's not like a character is radically different from the last time you saw her - and over-eager teenage superhero isn't really any different than spider-man getting dropped into the middle of civil war with no prior introduction.

Montecatinic2025-09-25 01:36

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deanereaner2025-09-24 01:49

I forgot about the actor's strike, that did hurt the publicity.

CaptHayfever2025-09-24 18:22

Contrary to what some troll might insist, that *definitely* hurt the publicity of a LOT of movies opening at the end of the actors' strike. The only big release that month to turn a profit at all was Hunger Games, which was also the only one that actually *had a normal press tour* (because Lionsgate settled with SAG-AFTRA separately from all the other studios & was exempted from the picket line).

Vandersveldt2025-09-25 19:24

If you'll allow me to go even farther, I think it's crazy that we ignore COVID when talking about how jumbled post end game is. Thunderbolts was the first project to have had no effect on it from either COVID or the Writer's Strike, and that and everything since has been great so far. I firmly believe Feige had a whole thing meticulously planned out, because that's what he does, and COVID killed any chance of coordinating releases to tell a finely crafted story with beats hitting exactly when you need them to over a bunch of movies.

I understand we're never gonna cut them some slack for this, but I think they did a great job even giving us what we did get, all things considered.

CaptHayfever2025-09-25 19:33

Absolutely. We're still seeing the effects of covid industry-wide; global total grosses are still lower than they were for several years pre-pandemic.

DJfunkyPuddle2025-09-24 01:56

Im NoT tHe TaRgEt AuDiEnCe

KrifeH2025-09-24 03:31

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AmaterasuWolf212025-09-24 03:49

This, they marketed the hell out of it for a very specific audience (cats, koreans, princesses, 3 girlies) and the people that bought the most tickets were still guys

Lemon_Lime_Lily2025-09-24 05:18

I thought you were talking about kpop demon hunters for a sec lol

ferdelance22892025-09-24 04:37

There's still a big disconnect between superheroes and girl stuff, unfortunately. I have a gen Z sister, and Thunderbolts, Captain Marvel or Fantastic Four didn't even register in her radar despite mentioning Pugh was in (she loved the hell out of Midsommar). On the other hand, she's on the hype train for that k-pop cartoon from Netflix.

TheBurgareanSlapper2025-09-24 02:11

Also, the fact that they didn’t call it “Captain Marvel 2” or “Captain Marvel and the Marvels” or something. Why they didn’t make it easy for casual moviegoers as register it as a sequel to a movie that made a billion dollars is beyond me.

GrimmSFG2025-09-24 11:01

Okay, so I get your point but ALSO it was supposed to be a direct sequel of both captain marvel and ms marvel both

Billybob352025-10-04 01:38

It was called "Captain Marvel 2" in Asian markets oddly enough.

hylianpersona2025-09-24 02:46

The actors strike meant the leads in the film couldn’t do ANY interviews or other promotion. The Marvels got absolutely screwed over by the timing of the strike

Good_old_Marshmallow2025-09-24 08:48

Completely, but this wasn’t a small indie movie it was a flagship property of the cash darling of the biggest Hollywood studio. Disney *couldve* made a deal with the union instead of following Netflix’s insane lead, at the end of the day it’s corporate greeds fault

MemoryLaps2025-09-24 05:44

You manage to list a half dozen things the movie has going against it and still don't manage to mention any issues with the actual quality of the film (e.g, writing, casting, acting, directing, editing, etc.).

forfor2025-09-24 06:42

Also the villain sucked

Dragon_yum2025-09-24 10:13

Also it’s just an ok movie that came out after a string of just ok movies. Marvel simply does. It has the goodwill anymore to get away with releasing a generic superhero movie.

And no, this is not hating the movie. Quality is a a spectrum not binary and this one simply falls in the middle.

McGrufNStuf2025-09-24 14:42

So many facts here. Top 2 are the Brie Larsen hate machine from all the SDE lads who are threatened by a woman that is actually happy.

The other being this whole idea that you need to watch every single Marvel item to just enjoy a movie. Both fans and Marvel are guilty of propagating this idea but it’s just not true. Almost every movie stands on its own. You’ll definitely understand more if you’ve watched others but it’s not as required as people think.

Level_Somewhere2025-09-24 00:48

Grok, gimmie the most stereotypical boilerplate marvelstudios post that you can conceive of

BobTheFettt2025-09-24 00:55

Grok, play Despacito

rdldr12025-09-24 00:49

I liked the movie. Danvers had a great story arc where she learned how to be a team player.

Canadyans2025-09-24 01:59

Same. It was just a lot of light fun. It wasn’t trying to be anything else. Also the power swapping stuff was something unique to see.

CaptHayfever2025-09-24 18:27

> a lot of light fun

I see what you did there. :)

Canadyans2025-09-24 18:51

Totally intentional…

Parahelix2025-09-24 04:20

Yep, it was a fun movie, and the three of them together had good chemistry!

AStealthyPerson2025-09-24 10:18

The movie literally does so much to rehabilitate Danvers's character from the arrogant hot shot who has to carry the burden alone into a team player who discovers that you can't always beat your way out of a situation. *The Marvels* was tailored for the people making a stink who hated her character in the previous movies, but ironically the people who wanted to see her character changed the most were also the ones who refused to see it. I quite enjoyed the movie overall. I liked the character arcs for Kamala and Monica, I thought the acting (particularly of the Khans) to be very good, and I found the explanation for Carol's crusade and attitude to be very compelling and humanizing. It really upsets me *The Marvels* did so poorly at the box office, and that people who've never even seen it use it as an example of the MCU's decline in quality. It was a fun movie, no matter what the haters says.

TheJack0fDiamonds2025-09-24 11:12

Yeah. Its not the most effective CM sequel they could give her but it still works.

Quiet_Sea9322025-09-24 00:50

I'm on Jessica Jones right now and man... it's kinda boring. I want to watch the movies lol.

nypinta2025-09-24 00:50

I think it was released at a weird time and the way the schedule was futzed with gave some people bad vibes. I mostly enjoyed the movie. I didn't like how they did that thing that Marvel does where the problems in the current movie are the "fault" of one of the heroes.

Desperate_Purpose4192025-09-24 00:52

I loved the movie personally

ucjj20112025-09-24 00:55

I was sitting in the theater watching it, and when they got to the singing planet, I thought, this is the most fun I've had watching a Marvel movie in a long time. I thought The Ms Marvel TV series was okay, I didn't really care much about her family in the show, but they stole the movie.

RedSnapper242025-09-24 02:16

Same. I remember having a blast at the theater watching this movie. My kid too. It was just so much fun. Plus, Park Seo Jun was the prince of the singing planet. I’m a huge kdrama fan so that was a nice surprise. My kid on the other hand did not get why I was so excited but liked the character.

MetalPhantasm2025-09-24 00:56

It’s good but unfortunately it’s in a weird spot in the series and oh yeah like 40% of mcu fans are racist sexist a holes who attack any female led project they produce. Idk it’s a shame that characters most likely going to fade into the background.

gmasterson2025-09-24 00:57

It was interesting. I enjoyed it.

I don’t think it moved the MCU forward much, but the MCU got dragged into a terrible spot due to Covid.

Real_Sorbet34242025-09-24 00:59

The dynamic was the thing that made me mad. I was super excited when they said it was going to be a team up, and I hoped they would really dig into their character interactions. Kamala idolizes Carol, Carol wants the opportunity to reconnect with Monica, Monica is disappointed in Carol's abandonment of Earth.

Then, most of their conflict got resolved in one of the corniest montages I'd seen in a while. It was such a letdown.

(side note: the flashback showing Carol coming back to see Maria before she died felt so reshoot-coded, IYKWIM.)

Also, and I know it was a long shot, but I really wanted to see Monica with a trench coat over her costume. I can't believe we're 0/2 on Nextwave members in the MCU wearing their sick-ass coats. It's a damn shame.

Fabulous_Spinach2025-09-24 02:59

It took me a minute to remember Elsa is in the MCU, what a disappointing case of adaptation-in-name-only.

kmckenzie2562025-09-24 01:00

I’ve found that many of the movies that get panned in these Marvel subs are not nearly as bad as they would have you believe.

hawkins3382025-09-24 01:00

The plot to me wasn’t great, but I really really enjoyed all three actresses together and their banter and chemistry. To me that’s the movie

Subject_Translator712025-09-24 01:01

The problem of that film is that apparently, half the people who would have liked it chose not to see it in theatre…

More seriously, I thought that it was the definition of mediocre. The villain might have been the most forgettable of all the MCU, and there were huge tonal shifts between the Kree survival plot and the comedy bits. It might not have been as bad as its haters are claiming but it’s not worth defending either.

TraptNSuit2025-09-24 01:21

This is the marvel studios subreddit. If there is anywhere on the internet to defend a fun and enjoyable but not particularly above and beyond marvel movie ... It is here.

Spider-man20982025-09-24 01:52

This guy reads the room.

AwarenessNo49862025-09-24 02:04

😲

tenehemia2025-09-24 04:37

I'm someone who didn't see it in theaters and also really enjoyed it. That said, I absolutely would've seen in it a theater (as I had every other MCU movie up to that point) except that my local theater, which had shown every Marvel movie at least since I moved to the area nine years earlier, chose not to run The Marvels. There was a bit of self-fulfilling prophecy at work because The Marvels opened on significantly fewer screens than any MCU movie since the franchise became a juggernaut. Theaters got spooked by the negative press and the movie really had no chance to be as big as other MCU films even if people had decided to give it a shot.

Salty-Coffee46082025-09-24 01:02

The movie is the average mcu score of 6/7 out of 10 anyone who said otherwise is probably grifting

Key-Contest-28792025-09-24 01:03

Most of the MCU movies are good to great. Haters are gonna hate.

Jkohlg2025-09-24 01:03

I’ve watched it twice and enjoyed it both times lol from the jump

FoFo13002025-09-24 01:04

The movie was fine, the vilain was really bad tho

CutMeLoose792025-09-24 01:04

It was 'ok', but travelled along the fairly low standard of a lot of the later MCU stuff.

Fabricant4512025-09-24 01:06

The planet whose language is song is exactly the kind of stuff comic book movies should lean into. Have some whimsy!

g00ner4422025-09-24 01:07

Nah I remember being very disappointed we didn't get what danvers did between this and the first movie tbh. Ms marvel was the first comic book I ever bought so no hate on the character just dont think they've done much with her in the movies

thrust-johnson2025-09-24 01:07

Killing the Kree Superintelligence should have been the movie!

ZardozSama2025-09-24 01:07

The movie was entertaining, but not great, roughly the 6 or 7 out of 10 range. At that range, the people who ere uninterested or disappointed will be very loud, and those that enjoyed it did not really dwell much on it or talk much about it.

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Roboticus_Aquarius2025-09-24 01:13

I watched it while on a flight. I probably missed a good part of it, but it seemed like a pretty fun flick. I’ll probably watch it again at some point to appreciate it a little better.

confon682025-09-24 01:14

It’s still one of the worst MCU releases. That and Ant Man 3. I found Ms Marvel was much better than the Marvels.

ExerciseNew96012025-09-24 01:15

Nice try, Brie!

IgnatiusD2472025-09-24 01:15

Fun doesn't mean memorable. Only good thing in that film was Kamala, the teleporting fight scene between the spaceship and the family home and the post-credits Beast reveal.

Still far better than the Captain Marvel film but that isn't saying much. I routinely rewatch MCU films several times. This one I forever added to the 'not even once' pile.

pearomatic2025-09-24 01:16

I loved it - thought it was super fun!! Definitely over-hated.

BrackishBlackfish2025-09-24 01:18

I liked parts of it but it was a sloppy movie tbh.

Kamala was easily the best part and I hope we see more of her and her family.

The kree-skrull war being so insignificant is WILD to me.

The gag with the flerkin eggs got more screen time/focus than the villan. That's no bueno for me.

Monica and carols reunion was so.. disappointing. They just kind of... got over it in 6 seconds.

The actress who plays Monica, this is crass but that woman has a butt like none of us have ever seen. I literally thought it was the space suit and wondered why it had so much ass padding. This isnt important but like.. how does that happen?

The singing planet wasn't *that bad* but a really questionable decision given that the movie had a lot going on on paper but focused on this instead.

Monica just kind of magically knowing how to fix the tear in spacetime? Meh.

Captain marvel being wildly nerfed but still about to "reignite a sun"? Meh.

The power swapping scenes were pretty cool and well done for the most part.

Fury being useless is always annoying for me.

I really like comic Carol and mcu Carol is just so bland. I dont think it's her fault, theyre just making bland movies with her and that SUCKS.

Not nearly as bad as the "critical drinker" types of people will say but it's like a 5/10 for me personally.

Edit: not trying to yuck any yums, just sharing my opinion. Sowwy.

SpecialKind55912025-09-24 01:18

I actually enjoyed The Marvels, I gave it a B+

KcirderfSdrawkcab2025-09-24 01:24

It's one of my favorite post-Endgame movies, honestly. Not the deepest, but a lot of fun. Anytime Kamala's family shows up is great. I especially love that Muneeba Khan is the one person who gets away with calling Fury "Nicholas".

EndlessDysthymia2025-09-24 01:25

I never understood it either. The villain was definitely mid and forgettable but the movie itself was solid.

kmarx10662025-09-24 01:29

I thought it was one of the best, fun well written and to the point … but most weeb fanboys can’t handle a movie that female hero centred.

N8CCRG2025-09-24 01:30

After my recent rewatch, it is still in the top half of MCU movies for me. The switching mechanic was great, and led to excellent action scenes. It has a great score including a great new theme for The Marvels. Good humor, a couple good cameos, good personal character journeys, a good villain, and it looks good. I feel the beginning was a little rushed and I would've like to have seen that slowed down and paced out a little bit longer, but otherwise it's in my "good to great" category.

Bigpappa362025-09-24 01:31

When the cats (flurkin) started eating everyone that’s someone the hardest I’ve laughed in a theatre. I agree it was very fun and didn’t take itself too serious.

I just think they really missed a step with bringing ms marvel and Monica into the movie. Captain marvel deserved an actual standalone sequel that could have explored the events after the first movie, or after involvement in end game, saving other worlds, and ms marvel went from a street level threat right to world ending threats.

Monica being in the movie is fine. She’s skilled enough hang. But the villain tbh, i think had the worst acting out of any marvel movie. By far the worst villain she like didn’t know what lane to act in. I think it’s even more depressing that’s she’s married to Loki and he gave a 10/10 performance in Loki and his wife debuts as the worst villain. Her aside I enjoyed it. Good 6.5/10 for enjoyment

RunningonGin03232025-09-24 01:32

Lmao

blitzbom2025-09-24 01:33

I saw it in theaters and had a lot of fun.

Throwupmyhands2025-09-24 01:35

My favorite was when I would post comments saying how much fun it was and haters were like “fun?! Is that what we want? Is fun good enough?” lol uh yeah. This is a movie. I don’t mind it being a great experience.

crumbsalt2025-09-24 01:35

I LOVE the movie sm. It’s become my Marvel comfort movie and made me realize i adore Iman Vellani

It may not be a GOOD movie, sure, it lacks a good solid villain and somehow CGI feels off, but it’s really really fun, it’s visually appealing, it’s an action-comedy-sleepover movie. It’s fun! That’s what matters!

Edit: AND, hot take i guess, but I actually came to really like Kamala’s new suit. Looks weird only in certain angles. Still.. i like the comic accurate suit better

Jlx_272025-09-24 01:38

You enjoyed it, that is all that matters.

Only_Silver31132025-09-24 01:38

This is my most watch MCU movie on d+ currently. I may not sit down and pay attention to every minute of the movie, but I can hop in at any time and still enjoy.

burywmore2025-09-24 01:38

It's a terrible movie that no amount of revisionist fiction can save. It's terribly written, terribly acted, terribly directed, everything about it is terrible.

I do really enjoy the weekly attempts at making disliking this movie a mistake.

It's not a mistake. It was bad when it came out and it is no better today.

Overwatch32025-09-24 01:39

Well have you considered that people didnt like it?

I liked both Ms Marvel and Captian Marvel 1 but I found The Marvels very lacking. Didn't utilize Kamala enough and Carol still felt kinda flat, like yeah she learned a lesson on teamwork but not better than I would see in an episode of power rangers. Also the villian was fucking horrendous. Diabolically bad. Overall it was like 2.5 outta 5 imo. Glad you enjoyed it though, im a fan of 1998 Godzilla that everyone seems to consider as one of the worst movies ever so everyone has their own tastes. But I think u can look up plenty of reviews on rotten tomatoes to get a consensus on why people didnt like it.

BradyPhoenix2025-09-24 01:40

Worst villain of the entire MCU (and that’s saying something), way way way too much of Kamala’s family, the swapping places gimmick wasn’t utilized very well, the terrible sing-along section in the middle, and then the ‘sad’ ending didn’t hit cuz she could have just closed the hole from the other side.

GUSplatoon2025-09-24 01:42

Kamala Khan was such a highlight for me in the film. Very enjoyable especially where she fan girls over Carol. So funny.

lilGojii2025-09-24 01:48

It was completely inoffensive, not the worst thing I've ever seen

deanereaner2025-09-24 01:48

The negativity was twofold: because the movie starred three women and because the popular narrative had shifted against the MCU at that point.

DJfunkyPuddle2025-09-24 01:55

Join the club. People suck.

Skaigear2025-09-24 01:57

The characters work, but the villains and plot were weak. Depending on how much you like the characters, your mileage may vary.

Greygor2025-09-24 02:06

There is a market for negativity in social media and people are happy to jump on the bandwagon

capeasypants2025-09-24 02:15

Personally. I thought it was a god Ms Marvel movie. It was whacky and fun - they have a planet that everything they do is through song. Its so silly. It was also an absolutely dog shit Captain Marvel movie that was whacky and fun and out of character for Carol Danvers - like a singing planet?!? The fuck kinda shit is that that they put her through.

Wolfram_And_Hart2025-09-24 02:20

Women bad

TheAgmis2025-09-24 02:24

It’s the internet and MCU discourse is always negative thanks to crippling nostalgia and the hive mind

VLHACS2025-09-24 02:33

It was a fun watch, but man the villain was so terribly written and forgetful. There were some fun scenes but never felt any urgency and whole movie felt very aimless.

First_Routine_45292025-09-24 02:33

I also watched it about 4 months ago and can´t remember the enemy name, nor her motives.

Actually cannot remember most of the movie. Such a non burger.

ABBJ552025-09-24 02:34

The story did not merit a movie, at most a series. This team has interesting moments but it is not good, Ms Marvel has to be in a youth team, Monica does not have to be a heroine and Cap Marvel has to be in the avengers at once

VesperX2025-09-24 02:36

It was entertaining especially if you enjoyed Captain Marvel and Ms Marvel. I don’t have any complaints about it. It wasn’t on the same level as the other MCU films but it was entertaining.

Talysn2025-09-24 02:47

I though it was ok, up until the stupid cats thing, that just sank it into absolute farce, and not in a good way.

DaveW6262025-09-24 02:55

That dance number though....

Poku1152025-09-24 03:05

And on the other side there's people out there that hate it even more than people say they should (like me)

Wonder what's the majority tho, im sure it was so good its wom helped...sure

Shantotto112025-09-24 03:10

It released right after Secret Invasion which of course creates a bit of a continuity problem when Valkyrie takes the Skrull refugees back to Earth…

DynastyZealot2025-09-24 03:16

You must not hate melanin and more than one X chromosome.

LatterAbalone32882025-09-24 03:22

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MarginOfPerfect2025-09-24 04:15

Lol surely this is satire

The Marvels was terrible

ra_laidgp2025-09-24 04:21

I enjoyed the movie but thinking back on it I really don’t remember a whole lot about the plot.

stanleytuccimane2025-09-24 04:27

I was extremely excited for The Marvels, I love Brie Larson, I love Kamala Khan, I loved WandaVision, I thought the all-female scene in Endgame was great, etc…. I hated The Marvels.

CaptainWikkiWikki2025-09-24 04:59

There are dozens of us!

The Marvels was breezy fun. I'm all in on more Kamala Khan, so I hope the film's bombing won't mean Feige shelves one of the MCU's currently most enjoyable actors.

That said, The Marvels has yet another woefully forgettable villain. I can't even tell you what her name was or her motivations.

Ok-Neighborhood-5662025-09-24 05:16

The singing and "look at me i'm so cute" Ms Marvel did it for me

ChilleUK2025-09-24 05:52

Gimme more ms marvel and I actually liked the dancing planet. Overall good movie imo.

SubRocHendrix772025-09-24 06:01

It was ok in concept but mediocre in dialogue, writing, and execution of said concept

MemoryLaps2025-09-24 06:11

It is wild to see how many people blame everything from the actors strike to racism to Brie Larson-specific hate while making zero mention of any issues whatsoever with the quality of artistic choices of any part of the actual film.

This was far from a perfect movie. This many people having a compete unwillingness (or inability) to point to a single issue/shortcoming of the actual film makes all the other explanations (*even the ones I personally agree with*) feel like cope.

No_Measurement14002025-09-24 21:34

both facts can be true. there was a lot of hate towards brie larson and generally a lot of die hard marvel fans hating on any female superheroes. And yes this movie wasnt perfect. But same can be said about many of the male led marvel movies and those didn't get as much hate as this movie did imo.

TheRajMahHal2025-09-24 07:46

I’m glad you enjoyed it but I thought it sucked

shaddowkhan2025-09-24 08:58

Every few weeks we they this post.

Moon_Beans12025-09-24 10:34

I think The Marvels is alright but it definitely has too much on the cutting room floor. They edited the film far too heavily and so it's way too short. You can kind of tell that there's a lot they cut out and I think it'd be a solid movie without those edits.

devilishycleverchap2025-09-24 12:43

Nonsensical villain, not sure if they were trying to somehow make the kree sympathetic for some reason. Literally genocidal fanatics across the board

Monica is just boring and the actor has no chemistry with Brie esp compared to Iman.

The power swapping seems cool but then it is inconsistently applied so the action scenes becomes a convoluted mess

Brie is great as usual but the writing was just bad. They need to pick a tone and commit

BartleBossy2025-09-24 16:42

The franchise will never improve until people can get past blaming sexism and racism for everything.

The movie just wasnt good. The characters are not widely loved or well established. The villain was forgettable.

TheRealOcsiban2025-09-24 17:01

I liked the idea of the movie but I was bored to tears watching it

RaidersCantTank2025-09-24 23:16

If someone told me they liked the marvels I would never trust them about tv shows or movies again. It was awful

Earthwick2025-09-24 23:18

See I've seen everything in the MCU more than once most more than twice some a lot. I think Marvels is close to the bottom for me. Bottom 3 for sure. It's villian is forgettable, the dialogue seemed really bad, the story ends up being kind of ridiculous and pointless. In the end I was left wondering what was the point besides the post credits scene? I guess to get photon into the movies... Why not just give her a stand alone movie then? Honestly I hate how the MCU had done Kamala Kahn as someone who really liked the character in the comics.

ncstateguy2025-09-25 00:27

Do we get to take turns making this post every other week or so?