What are your hot takes for the Infinity Saga?

For me personally , missing Nick Fury was a huge missing piece of the final chapters of The Infinity Saga. He was so integral to the building of the world and then totally not around even superficially for the grand finale.

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SinisterCryptid2025-09-23 08:58

The saga isn’t Infinity if it ends at an endgame

Adipay2025-09-23 11:09

You're right it ends at Far From Home

JoshTheBard2025-09-23 14:31

If it really wanted to be called infinity it should never have ended at all

dufftheduff2025-09-24 03:59

You know what’s pretty far from home? Infinity.

EddieBlizario2025-09-23 08:59

Not really a hot take try again

Single-Pianist-22112025-09-23 08:59

They shouldn’t have destroyed S.H.I.E.L.D

Saurondur2025-09-23 09:04

They should have had an arc in the later Infinity Saga and making it about rebuilting S.H.I.E.L.D into what we know as S.W.O.R.D, seems to have come out of nowhere In Wandavision

ParagonRebel2025-09-23 10:19

This

GranolaCola2025-09-23 22:46

That

Iamtherealbuk2025-09-23 15:28

Realistically when would they have had time for that? Winter soldier was in 2014, the Avengers broke up in 2016, 2017 & 2018 were filled with movies that SHIELD wouldn’t have fit into, and Fury is blipped in 2018 as well

Xerothor2025-09-23 19:01

They could have... Written a movie that shield *did* fit into

SquirrelSorry49972025-09-23 19:06

*cough* secret invasion trilogy *cough*

Xerothor2025-09-23 19:06

Oh god, what could have been

Iamtherealbuk2025-09-23 19:12

So I ask again…if Agents of Shield stopped being canon right after Winter Soldier, when else could a shield focused project have worked?

It’s easy to say what they could’ve or should’ve done in hindsight but looking at the releases we got there was just no way to fit in a SHIELD movie without it undermining Winter Soldier or being messy. And there isn’t a movie in the infinity saga post winter soldier that would’ve benefited from a SHIELD subplot

Xerothor2025-09-23 19:14

A secret invasion sooner than we got, which was actually good. Just having shield exist in the background lends itself to a cohesive universe, they don't have to always be directly involved.

OnlinePosterPerson2025-09-23 15:35

I mean there’s a whole show about rebuilding shield. What more do you want?

Xerothor2025-09-23 19:00

They decided never to have it mentioned ever in the MCU main.

nudeldifudel2025-09-23 15:31

At least not until much much later. We did get Agents of Shield out of it kinda which is awesome, but still yeah Shield is such an easy way to tie stuff together and create a coherent universe that it was a huge mistake to get rid of it so soon.

Thomas_Something2025-09-24 17:39

facts...

Bruhmangoddman2025-09-23 09:00

- I appreciate the concept and execution of Vision post Infinity War, but the overall lack of narrative focus and attention prevented him from being a meaningful presence in the MCU, leading to him becoming wasted

- The same applies to Bucky

- Henry Jackman not doing any more MCU music after TFATWS is an incomprehensible creative choice

- When the VFX, set design and lighting aligned perfectly, both No Way Home and Love & Thunder could boast some of the best cinematography in the MCU

- AC/DC is good as background music for Tony, but Brian Tyler's themes are even better

- Out of the new Iron Man armors, Mark 46 has the best look

- As far as threat level goes, Yellowjacket turned out to be more formidable than some of the nominally superior antagonists

deadlyghost1232025-09-23 09:02

Most of them are not from the Infinity saga

Bruhmangoddman2025-09-23 09:05

The decisions made with Vision and Bucky also apply to the Infinity Saga.

YerGirlKiki2025-09-23 09:19

Good takes overall, but many aren't Infintiy Saga takes.

BatmanForever232025-09-23 10:23

>I appreciate the concept and execution of Vision post Infinity War

So you mean the Multiverse saga? Very specifically not what the post asked for?

Bruhmangoddman2025-09-23 10:52

This is also related to the Infinity Saga. He was a passenger in IW and they didn't bring him back in Endgame.

Lukecubes2025-09-23 10:59

Just because it's a character from the infinity saga doesn't mean it's related to the infinity saga

BatmanForever232025-09-23 11:08

It's not, because you state 'post Infinity War'. Vision doesn't appear again in the Infinity Saga, so it's not. It's not bad to admit you're wrong, but it is to refuse to admit it.

Regenitor_2025-09-24 11:57

Agree with Henry Jackman. That score had the wow factor. Even the goddamn Epilogue was memorable, the way it swells up to that cinematic, triumphant cresendo. Louisiana Hero is a fantastic theme for Sam too.

It's a real shame they didn't borrow from his again for Brave New World (to my knowledge anyway).

FeralPsychopath2025-09-23 09:19

They made shit up to link it all together in the end and because the directors were more focused on story than trying to maintain consistency in a universe, the stories were better since there was no expectations from previous movies.

Nightingdale0992025-09-23 10:40

Yeah , it's definitely more of a passing baton storytelling than Big Feige in the background making filmmakers plant things here and there.

Useful_Bobcat_27502025-09-23 09:23

I feel like Whedon would’ve made a better “EndGame”than the Russos

Single-Pianist-22112025-09-23 09:58

I think he would’ve at least handled the characters better

Useful_Bobcat_27502025-09-23 14:12

He definitely would’ve!

Ordinary-Chain-80472025-09-23 13:51

He literally has said that he has no idea what he would’ve done with Thanos

Useful_Bobcat_27502025-09-23 14:12

He would’ve figured it out

tarsdev2025-09-23 09:24

Needed more battle in endgame. Expected too much more. No nick fury, no signature helicarrier. The Avengers movie was very satisfying. Endgame was good but not like first one. Could have been much more!

Ok-Injury82282025-09-23 09:29

Age of Ultron is unfairly hated: It’s messy sometimes, sure, but Age of Ultron sets up Vision, Wanda, and the Infinity Stone arc up to peak interest, while grappling with Tony’s hubris and the Avengers’ flaws. It’s a crucial pivot point that gets flak for not being as polished as The Avengers, but it takes bigger risks and made Infinity War so impact full because of the grounded flaws of our heroes ánd made the snap so emotional.
Without all these set-up flaws, the Snap wouldn't be so impact full and Endgame wouldn't have such an impact in the 3th act (whilst the first 1.5h was quite slow and emotional driven cause of the mistakes or desperation everyone felt).

Dragon_yum2025-09-23 11:06

Is it hated or does it simply have more criticism?

InvestigatorLive192025-09-23 11:18

That's what I was thinking. It's definitely the weakest avengers film, but haven't really seen anyone "hating" on it

Bruhimonlyeleven2025-09-23 11:49

I like it more then the first one. The first one comes off as campy. It's Thor that kills it for me.

VaishakhD2025-09-23 14:51

Well it definitely got more hate when the Whedon stuff came out. Makes you wonder if the hate is actually fair movie criticism or just fuel to put Whedon down. Horrible human being but I think AoU is great.

Dragon_yum2025-09-23 15:28

I think you overestimate how much the common person knows or cares about Whedon

VaishakhD2025-09-23 15:29

Pretty sure the common person loves this movie.

bigskywildcat2025-09-23 14:57

It was hated more at the time because it was a setup movie rather than a standalone avengers film like the first avengers. Everyone wanted it to be like avengers 1 but bigger and better but it fell flat of that expectation. After watching rest of infinity saga and coming back to it, the setup is really well done but at the time of release no one had any vision of whats to come

shanotron2025-09-23 16:36

I‘ll just never forgive them killing off Quicksilver. Aaron Taylor Johnson is smokin hot.

N8CCRG2025-09-23 18:02

It's actually my favorite of the four Avengers movies, and I never understood the hate for it.

B_Wayne_88332025-09-24 05:47

It's my favorite MCU movie but I do understand why people aren't crazy about it, I don't see how someone could hate it though.

djmedicalman2025-09-24 00:25

That's one of those that is much better in retrospect after Infinty War/Endgame. Watching it now is fantastic.

soggyDeals2025-09-24 01:24

FYI, the phrase is "pique interest" not "peak interest". It's a french word for "to pierce". The idea is that the concept pierced the wall of your interest. Common mistake, we all do a r/boneappletea every now and then!

Emotional_Chance78452025-09-24 13:21

I really love age of ultron so I didn't get the hate back then

unreasonable-frog2025-09-23 09:30

If Ultron could eat, he would really appreciate my cooking.

RTafazolli12025-09-23 13:56

Ahhhhhh

Any-Cat212025-09-23 09:50

Well, it's not controversial, I just think that all the sequel movies except the Captain America ones were terrible, that they shouldn't have removed Shield, that they could have made a better series with more heroes and villains from the Agents of Shield series, that the Ant-Man movies would be better with the original Ant-Man, and that the year of Ultron should have lasted a year and not a week in the movie.

Abraham_Issus2025-09-23 09:54

My hot take is they made shit up along the way just like multiverse saga for infinity saga. Some people like to believe feige had it all planned out after Avengers no he didn’t.

Single-Pianist-22112025-09-23 10:00

Even so they obviously had a much better process for pulling it off before

izeris_2025-09-23 15:00

Not even a take thats just what it is

Abraham_Issus2025-09-23 18:55

What would you say it is?

izeris_2025-09-23 19:00

I think its the general discourse between fans who romanticize the infinity saga because of the mixed bag of the current era.

Jirachibi10002025-09-23 21:50

I feel they had a basic thing in mind like "We know Thanos is after the Infinity stones and we know we're doing a 2 part Avengers movie where Thanos snaps away half the universe as a cliffhanger" and the rest was winged/filling in the pieces.

TheAgmis2025-09-23 10:11

There’s a lot of mediocre movies

TokyoSky002025-09-23 23:14

maybe so but still not as mediocre as the ones in the multiverse saga

abnerayag2025-09-23 10:19

We didnt really need captain marvel there. Her movies are terrible and forgettable and she was too op to contribute any significant development other than destroying the ship and tussling with thanos a bit at the end. That role couldve been done by thor instead somehow.

dekomorii2025-09-23 11:01

Winter Soldier movie is held too much high, it’s very good as a film but it feels like it’s forged by gods you cant say anything about the movie

Stunning-Analyst-8462025-09-23 11:11

The transition into the multivurse saga should've started with Thanos winning the battle in Endgame with the universal snap to cause a soft reboot of the MCU

chhuang2025-09-23 11:11

I'm here for the hot take thread to be filled with cold take comments

leviathan09992025-09-23 11:12

Thanos is lying about his motives. He's really just in love with Death and wants to give her the gift of vast numbers of deaths.

But he knows that sounds stupid and people would be contemptuous of him, so he made up the utterly fake and stupid "conservation" schtick so people would take him seriously.

Salty-Coffee46082025-09-23 11:13

I liked captain marvel

YodasChick-O-Stick2025-09-23 11:20

Far from Home is the worst MCU movie.

It completely misunderstands the point of Spider-Man, it ruins the emotional weight of the ending of Endgame, the comedy is so forced and terrible, Mysterio doesn't have a goal as the antagonist, it wastes Molten Man, Hydro Man, Cyclone and Chameleon, Peter falls in love with Michelle offscreen before the movie starts, the Brad subplot goes nowhere, and to top it all off, the main gimmick of "Spider-Man going around the world" doesn't work unless Miles or another Web Warrior is in New York to protect it while he's gone. Peter was being irresponsible, the #1 thing you don't do as Spider-Man.

And I don't get why it's officially the end of the Infinity Saga. It mentions the Multiverse several times; why isn't it the start of the Multiverse Saga?

Jirachibi10002025-09-23 21:51

They said iirc it was going so start it, but after it finished they realized it "Works best as an epilogue to Endgame rather than the start of a new chapter" iirc?

YodasChick-O-Stick2025-09-23 21:54

The very first thing that happens after Tony's death is a villain trying to take his place isn't a good epilogue.

Griffithead2025-09-24 03:27

I just rewatched this. I HATED the first half. So cringey. I was angry most of the time.

But I think the movie saves itself in the end.

So yeah, it's low on my list, but not the bottom. (Fuck off Thor 4)

YodasChick-O-Stick2025-09-24 03:40

Thor 4 is bad but at least his character is consistent. Peter was great in Homecoming and No Way Home, but they completely dropped the ball in Far from Home.

MardukTheRaven2025-09-23 11:47

About Civil War - I'd be on Cap's side of conflict... but Stark had much cooler lineup of heroes.

HolymakinawJoe2025-09-23 11:57

My hot take is that I won't be seeing any of it because Disney is cancelled.

SWPrequelFan815662025-09-23 12:58

Not seeing Nick Fury in an actual SHIELD uniform will be one of their biggest fumbles of all time

darkreapertv2025-09-23 13:07

Announcing avengers 4 before releasing infinity war was a mistake. Releasing far from home trailer before releasing the movie endgame was a mistake.

Heygregory2025-09-23 13:33

Depowering Pepper at the end of Iron Man III was a huge mistake. That literal power dynamic had potential, and Pepper could have worked with the other MCU characters instead of being only a Tony supporting character.

Regenitor_2025-09-24 12:00

Agree. And if you care about the movies intersecting, it would have meant that the events of 3 had a direct impact on future films. And no I don't really count Tony and Pepper's "split" in Civil War to be a result of Iron Man 3, not with the cheerful ending they had together.

MaterialPace88312025-09-23 13:36

People greatly overstate the amount of planning that went into the overall story arc. Thanos did not have 18-20 movies of build up, he had five minutes of screen time before he showed up in Infinity War.

I think the Infinity Saga has also warped people's sense of what can be accomplished in a single movie. I've seen people on here complain about the next Super Mario movie being Super Mario Galaxy, talking about how that should have been Movie 4 or something.

bluebarrymanny2025-09-23 19:43

Gotta love the duality of fans that can’t decide which way they feel between: “nothing is bringing these stories together. It’s all setup!” or “wow, they’re really just skipping all of the buildup to try to just cash in on X property. This is gonna suck”

GranolaCola2025-09-23 22:52

I recently saw someone giving Age of Ultron the “good ol’ days” treatment and talking about how it was MCU movies had actual stories that was more than just buildup.

I was there when Age of Ultron released. It was Build-Up the Movie. That was its biggest criticism.

nakiva2025-09-23 23:43

I remember the critism for Thors dream sequence that it was basicly a trailer in the Movie.

Age of Ultron had weird parts because they where trying to expand to fast in my opinion.

GranolaCola2025-09-24 02:01

I probably haven’t seen that film in seven years, and I still specifically remember it planting seeds for Civil War, Black Panther, Ragnarok (and Planet Hulk, which we didn’t realize was the same movie at the time), and Infinity War. There was barely room for it to actually be Age of Ultron.

Cold-Ad-53472025-09-25 09:25

Do you think they used Ultron properly or was it a waste of potential?

dufftheduff2025-09-24 03:59

This is kind of why I don’t feel a lot of doom(tm) for Doomsday, because the Russos took plot threads from aaaall the characters previous movies and MADE it cohesive just from what was already out there and produced, there’s no way in hell the Marvel suits successfully planned out everything from Iron Man to Endgame in the way that it *seems* like they did. I really think this is the Russo’s secret sauce and that they just thrive with pulling an ensemble’s past, into the present and together, into something great.

jussshere2025-09-24 19:09

I mean at least thanos was talked about and didn’t just come outta nowhere . He wasn’t built up that much but we still had build up somewhere

electricpenguin72025-09-25 02:50

Thanos might not have been built up much but the infinity stones were

Normal-Step45432025-09-23 13:47

Spiderman should've had an origin movie

ShawshankException2025-09-23 14:56

We've seen his origins a hundred times. I'm actually happy they decided not to do it

Ordinary-Chain-80472025-09-23 13:51

Age of Ultron and Thor 1 are Peak

mattbattmatt_yt2025-09-23 14:19

I wished they slowed down tbh. I saw a video saying where the first saga should have been about Ultron, so more focused on earth. I prefer that idea

GreenLynx11112025-09-23 14:37

It was amazing top to bottom. The transition from Infinity Saga to Multiverse Saga, and then the Multiverse Saga itself - not so much. Awkward af. Secret Invasion was a HUGE swing and a miss, though it was supposed to be Fury's story. For some reason.

ShawshankException2025-09-23 14:52

The saga was average until phase 3

VaishakhD2025-09-23 14:52

Iron man 3 theme should have been a recurring theme.

varanusprime2025-09-25 19:55

It was a few times, you can hear it when the Hulkbuster first assembles in Age of Ultron, then iirc you can hear the motif in Civil War and Homecoming (I think), but overall I agree.

izeris_2025-09-23 14:58

Phases 1 and 2 had the same mix of mediocre and good as phases 4 and 5

blue_playz222025-09-23 14:59

We should have seen MORE nick fury

bigcalebc2025-09-23 15:00

Iron Man 2 is Goated

BetrayYourTrust2025-09-23 15:15

infinity war is solid, endgame is mid. if a movie identical to endgame came out in phase 4 people would call it capeslop for forcing all the characters together, making thor fat, and having fortnite references. i don’t hate endgame at all, but it doesn’t deserve the praise as the best of the MCU at all when movies like Iron Man, Shang Chi, GotG 3, and Civil War exist.

bluebarrymanny2025-09-23 19:48

I disagree but I think it because of all the baggage the film had. Endgame is not just a random team up movie. It needed to land the plane on over ten years of buildup stories while also giving a conclusive and satisfying ending to the immediate threat. The balancing act of movie callbacks without compromising the overall story or pacing is pretty great in the movie. There are some detail nitpicks for sure, but the other movies you mentioned never had such a high objective to reach.

BetrayYourTrust2025-09-24 04:37

you’re right on endgame’s baggage in that it tipped in the direction of being an favorable result of that large accumulation. it did stick the landing. i think the negative outlook on a lot of phase 4, 5, and 6 projects though are all being compared to the projects of the past in a way that didn’t happen nearly as much in phases 1-3. i don’t think people were talking about how age of ultron was capeslop and they miss the old mcu because there was so much less to look back on and people were just excited for another avengers movie (even if that movie wasn’t as beloved, but i personally love it more than avengers 1). the further this franchise goes, the less people will praise each movie because some people have picked their favorites and will reject anything new as being equal or better. overall, i think endgame is loved for what is meant culturally rather than how it is as a movie.

Romnonaldao2025-09-23 15:26

Dark World would have been way better if it never went back to Earth or had Jane Foster in it. It should have been Sif that got infected and the movie could have been Thor and the warriors three rampaging across the universe while fighting Dark Elves, trying to save her.

DCosloff19992025-09-23 21:22

I agree and Thor and Sif belong together

FireflyArc2025-09-24 00:07

You know I could see it.

omnipresent292025-09-24 20:40

I’d definitely want to watch this version over what we got

Iamtherealbuk2025-09-23 15:30

It’s not some flawless masterpiece that people claim it is when comparing it to the Multiverse Saga. I distinctly remember how the phase 2 movies were pretty badly received when they released but nobody acknowledges that anymore

AmaterasuWolf212025-09-23 15:42

Thor 1 is better than Ragnarok

Acceptable_Ball_41232025-09-23 15:43

Not enough superheroes

ContentAssumption2042025-09-23 16:07

They didn’t need to do Civil War and Cap should’ve gotten his own phase 3 solo movie instead of Avengers 2.5.

Enchantress should’ve been the villain in Thor 2 (though I’m pretty sure that isn’t a hot take since no one remembers the villain from that movie anyway.)

Starlord should’ve been the Guardian to survive the snap, not Rocket.

Hulk in the first Avengers (and parts of Age of Ultron) is cooler than Hulk in the Incredible Hulk.

Successful-Hat-21542025-09-23 16:23

The Ant Man movies were really good

Regenitor_2025-09-24 11:58

I've had a real change of heart on them. I used to detest them. Rewatches changed my mind. The Infinity Saga Ant-Man films are great and definitely far from the worst the saga had to offer.

AntiMilkman2025-09-23 16:34

Thor: Ragnarok is not as amazing as people say. Rather, it capitalized on the general public’s relative indifference to the Thor movies thus far, and gave them something unexpected and new. It’s honestly on par with the first one in a lot of ways, but a lot of MCU fans jumped on board because Thor was suddenly being a massive goofball and that was more akin to a lot of other MCU projects.

Buhos_En_Pantelones2025-09-23 17:02

The Dark World>Thor 1>Ragnarok.

I was sick of Tony Stark after AoU.

IndependentBit97452025-09-23 18:10

Most movies, if not all of them look and feel the exact same, and I get that they did this for consistency as well as making everything feel like it's in the same universe, but Jesus Christ, some originality could be very helpful from time to time, that's one of the few things that I actually like more about The Multivesre Saga, that the new projects are finally able to look different and stand on their own (e.g WandaVision, Multiverse of Madness, Loki, The Fantastic 4, Thunderbolts, etc.)

Sunshine1452025-09-23 18:25

Endgame was a snoozefest for the first 2 hours, followed by a disappointing final battle. Worst Avengers movie and a bottom 10 mcu movie.

ABBJ552025-09-23 19:07

After age of ultron they forgot about nick fury and left him completely out of important events when it shouldn't have been that way. Thanos' timing and choices in the search for the gems make no sense. Loki seems like a trash character to me. Wanda felt the loss of vision more than her own brother's, which I never liked.

Iamtherealbuk2025-09-23 19:22

I saw someone say that The Marvels should’ve been “Captain Marvel: Secret Invasion” and have it be phase 5’s big cross over Civil War type event. Maybe that’s where it could’ve been explained what SHIELD is now

But now that I think about it, they should’ve used time in Far From Home to actually explain wtf Hill and Fury do now. That’s probably the most likely place for it to have been

rjceo2025-09-23 20:26

Black panther is overrated.

DCosloff19992025-09-23 21:27

Fantastic Four and X-Men should've been introduced in phase 2

Black Widow should've had a movie before Iron Man 2

Nick Fury and War Machine should've had solo films instead fo Secret Invasion and Armor Wars

Civil War was unnecessary especially in the comics

I don't mind Spider-Man having tech in his suits

Making Thor a comic relief was a mistake

Mark Ruffalo was the worst recast for Bruce they should've kept Edward Norton

Sam Wilson didn't need to be Captain America he was a great character as Falcon

Yvonne Strahvoski would've been a better fit as Carol instead of Brie Larson

They shouldn't have killed off Quicksilver killing off a Speedster with bullets he could easily catch and dodge will always be stupid.

Spider-Man should've sided with Cap not Iron Man

The Marvel Netflix characters should've gotten the movie treatment

TokyoSky002025-09-23 23:16

f4 and xmen were owned by fox at the time so they couldn't put them in phase 2.

they wanted norton back but he wanted too much money

we absolutely did not need solo films for fury and rhodey. let main characters have films and side characters have shows. not every character is worthy of a cinematic release

DCosloff19992025-09-23 23:22

That's true

dumpydent2025-09-23 22:42

Absolute Cinema

FireflyArc2025-09-24 00:13

There was a lot of lead up to gamora sister killing thanos like in the comics then they just..did their own thing.

TheJack0fDiamonds2025-09-24 00:20

ATJ Pietro should’ve never been killed. Fury’s eye could’ve been caused by something better. Agent 13 should’ve been left in team cap in Civil War alongside Wanda. Wasp should’ve been one of the leads in Endgame instead of being snapped.

Public-Midnight-96002025-09-24 01:03

The end of the Infinity Saga should’ve ended the Mainline MCU.

mdavis87102025-09-24 01:13

On rewatches in later years I find some of the dialogue in the first Avengers to be some of the weakest

dastardlyc00kie2025-09-24 02:45

It's not as flawless as you think, you just grew up with it and look at even the weaker entries through rose-colored glasses.

Komaisnotsalty2025-09-24 06:07

Overall, without getting picky, the Infinity Saga is probably one of my most enjoyable times in a movie theatre, and I haven't had an experience like that since watching the original Star Wars movies in the '70s and '80s.

The Infinity Saga was incredible, going all the way back even to Iron Man when it all started. But the experience in the theatre for Endgame will stay with me for life.

I haven't been in the theatre since. For one, Covid and lockdown of course, but also, I just haven't noticed anything that I feel can match or top it, so haven't bothered.

There were errors, mistakes, wtf plotlines, and issues. Of course there were.

But those movies took over theatres for years and they're still at the top of the best of the best - and will be for a long time, I'm sure.

mategorilla992025-09-24 11:22

Thor: The Dark World is not as bad as people say it was. Captain Marvel is worse in my opinion, however they did it right with The Marvels surprisingly. My point still stands.

AAC08132025-09-24 17:12

Didn’t we just get this post yesterday?

Thomas_Something2025-09-24 17:38

Its not really over...

ToDandy2025-09-24 18:16

Far From Home should be considered the start of the Multiverse Saga not the end of Infinity Saga. Makes more sense for it to end on the movie with END literally in the title.

Ecstatic-Trainer68302025-09-25 01:42

Avengers: Endgame is the single worst MCU movie ever released.

t-bonestallone2025-09-25 02:50

Dr Strange is a liar

freunleven2025-09-25 04:35

It was a series of mostly single serving antagonists that didn’t have an overall story arc until at least halfway through the second phase. Of those two flaws, the reduction of Red Skull and Ultron in particular to that level does not sit well with me. Overall, though, I enjoyed the Infinity Saga. I even enjoyed the early entries of Phase 4, but after Secret Invasion, I haven’t really cared all that much about the MCU.

Kind_Switch_59082025-09-25 05:03

Civil War was trash🙇🏾‍♂️ Helmut Zemo was a boring villain and there were barely any heroes. It was like avengers 2.5

INKatana2025-09-25 07:06

- Captain America the Winter Soldier, AoS, and Infinity War are overrated af.
- Captain America the first Avenger is really the only Captain America movie. Winter Soldier has Cap in a big role, but it feels more like a SHIELD movie. And Civil War is just straight up Avengers movie.
- The best movie with Black Panther is Civil War.

rocketmanx2025-09-25 09:39

Infinity War and Endgame were an extremely underwhelming wrap-up of the Thanos storyline. I didn't find them compelling.

Galderick_Wolf2025-09-25 10:36

Nick Fury doesn't really do much

epic_reddit_dude2025-09-25 14:29

Pre endgame wasn’t a flawless era

No_Mood_75152025-09-25 18:03

Captain America had the best Trilogy.

BeastMode2k242025-09-25 18:55

Niceeee

martian_potato12025-09-25 22:48

Avengers 1 was the best "all the setup comes together in one movie" movie. Better than Infinity war, Endgame

darthyogi2025-09-26 18:06

The Avengers didn’t have great chemistry. After watching GOTG and Thunderbolts you understand how good chemistry could be

Soulwarfare422025-09-26 18:23

They should've gave each hero an iconic theme

The fact that I can only hum The Avengers theme and Spider-Man theme (barely remember Ant-Man theme) is bad

Vizard152025-09-27 08:23

The Infinity Saga for me is perfect as it is, that has its own imperfections. It set the standard for franchise comic book movies. Marvel Studios still their best despite misfires in the succeeding phases. But after seeing Thunderbolts and F4 First Steps, they rejuvenated the MCU.

Emergency_Anybody7332025-09-28 03:15

Civil War was the movie that made me lose interest in the MCU as a whole. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad film, but the focus on character drama for the sake of spectacle near the end made me realize that most, if not all the people involved never were that heroic in the first place; therefore making the rest of the story fairly predictable. It showed the same pits long-lasting TV series tend to fall into (the Russos' background was showed heavily, but I wouldn't necessarily blame them for that), where only the "popular" characters get development and the rest are brought in for either checking a box or promoting potential new stuff in the future. Also, don't forget the undoing of important plot threads in later entries (eg. revoking the Accords), turning the whole idea nearly pointless outside the context of the Infinity saga itself