ugh yes, this is such a good opening to a very good movie - just watched it again this weekend
FafnirSnap_94282025-09-22 16:26
This opening and perhaps the first half of the movie were quite good. But when Red Guardian showed up and it turned into a Marvel movie (just the Winter Soldier with some adjustments) then it started to go downhill.
StewiesCurbside2025-09-22 17:55
I will not take red guardian slander
JackintheBoxman2025-09-22 19:06
Nor will I. I love me a Russian Teddy Bear goofball played by David Harbour with Dad vibes.
Single-Pianist-22112025-09-22 16:28
sorry but I thought this was so cringey and on-the-nose….this was basically the moment I knew I would hate the movie
HamSoloTheSpaceMan2025-09-22 16:38
Same
This is just something you either loved or found corny. There’s no way my brain at the time felt like all of that was earned for Black Widow. It feels like something for a Marvel Zombies intro or something. It was way too much for a BW origin ten years too late.
ubutterscotchpine2025-09-22 16:45
Your statements contradict themselves lmao. It’s either a movie she didn’t ‘earn’ or a movie that came a decade too late.
Any-Transition952025-09-23 04:22
If you don't mind, care to elaborate why you found it cringey or on the nose? Curious to know your perspective.
To me, it's been an important part of Black Widow's backstory since they first showed it in AoU. It was a chance for one of the OG Avengers to get her chance to confront the trauma that has haunted her whole life. Unless your reasoning is just - you don't care about Black Widow's backstory, then there's not really a discussion to be had, just a matter of personal taste.
Single-Pianist-22112025-09-23 04:29
I care about Natasha deeply, she’s in my top three MCU characters. I just found putting her whole backstory in the intro like this, with a bad remix/cover and cheesy transitions/effects like an amateur YouTube fan video, to be cringey and on the nose.
Any-Transition952025-09-23 04:34
Ah gotcha. You're talking about the choice of editing style.
Some comments did mention that Marvel may have opted for a montage for Natasha's backstory because the topic was otherwise a bit too dark for Disney's taste to be made into actual scenes.
I would have preferred they dedicated at least a quarter of the runtime to explore this period of her life, but oh well.
Single-Pianist-22112025-09-23 04:51
I think flashbacks sprinkled throughout could’ve worked fine
Comic_Book_Reader2025-09-22 16:37
I have to say, knowing how Disney is... it's kinda fucking insane that they actually let this scene pass because of how fucked up and dark it is.
Any-Transition952025-09-23 04:13
It was so good, I wished they had let the movie explore this part of the story for much longer. It was a serious real world topic that deserves attention. It would have also set up their reunion later for a much more emotional payoff. But I get it, it's a Disney production at the end of the day.
Salty-Coffee46082025-09-23 12:02
Disney showed a guy get hung and a lion mauled to death what?
chiefbrody622025-09-28 06:15
They're only like that for their G-rated animated movies. This is a PG-13 action movie, I don't think it's surprising at all that they had a scene like this.
nicolasb519420032025-09-22 16:42
In the theater, I immediately caught the music because it played in the trailers for The Gallows.
Now Black Widow is what people think of now when they hear this rendition of Smells Like Teen Spirit.
ubutterscotchpine2025-09-22 16:47
I remember seeing this for the first time at a drive-in and the music and this scene were stunning. This is one of my favorite Marvel movies, the haters can get lost honestly.
BanjoSpaceMan2025-09-22 16:47
That was bad lol
Super-Visor2025-09-22 17:21
Promised a better movie much like Origins: Wolverine.
Peter_Parker662025-09-22 17:22
Say what you want about the movie, but these credits rule. Its so dark, and depressing, which I'm glad disney let them get this dark considering the subject material
Sir__Will2025-09-22 18:30
Probably helped to put it in this highly edited opening montage like this. We get to see how brutal it could be, but nothing lingers more than a second or so.
Responsible_Egg75192025-09-22 17:22
I wish the movie kept the vibe closer to this. I loved the Nat and Yelena moments, but I wasn’t a fan of the whole floating sky base and high-tech aspects. Felt more like something from a Tom Cruise movie.
TraptNSuit2025-09-22 17:32
It was a by the numbers Bond movie. Down to having a Q.
Still blows my mind people don't talk about it that way.
Any-Transition952025-09-23 04:05
I feel like it could be a case of mismatched expectation and target audience. Since it was the first MCU movie to be released after the Infinity Saga, the pandemic was drawing to an end, all eyes were on it. Everyone was curious enough to watch it, regardless if a spy action flick was their cup of tea.
InnocentTailor2025-09-22 19:09
They could’ve made the headquarters more subdued - less fantastical flying fortress and more Soviet bunker with the trappings of the old world.
That would make it more spy-like and espionage-flavored than what we ultimately got.
Cotton_to_the_core2025-09-22 19:53
Exactly l, there’s even a clip from Moonraker in the film!
labria862025-09-22 23:15
Felt like a rip off Castle in the Sky
tainted3162025-09-22 17:31
I loved it when they revealed Olga kurylenko's name in the opening credits so everyone figured out she was Dreykov's daughter... Oh well.
TheeDeputy2025-09-22 17:39
The opening made me think the movie would be A LOT better than what it was. Unfortunately it becomes extremely mediocre and generic fast.
Bolt_9952025-09-22 17:43
If the entire movie had the tone that was set by the opening credits, this movie would have been legendary. This movie should have been as fucked up, grim and unsettling as this.
But nooooo, more of that wholesome relatable cringe family humour BS, women subjugated by men plotline (rehashed from Captain Marvel), and that horrendous abomination that was Taskmaster.
Had the same fucking problem with Moon Knight.
Have to give these a pass though, this was during a time where Disney and Marvel didn’t have their nuts.
MuNansen2025-09-22 17:43
I like the movie overall, but I admit I was disappointed that they didn't go harder at the abuse against women, other than here in the credits.
actuallivingdinosaur2025-09-24 17:22
Makes me glad that we get some snippets of that with Yelena in the Hawkeye show and Thunderbolts.
dawne_breaker2025-09-22 17:51
Do Marvel movies even have opening credits? Is Black Widow the only one? 🤔
cowpool202025-09-22 17:59
Only ones I can think of are Black Widow and Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy. All the others just have the Marvel intro then title card.
dawne_breaker2025-09-22 18:02
Now I remember Groot dancing in GotG2. And I’ll take your word for the other two.
Hyxenflay7737_45652025-09-22 18:09
We have the Come and Get Your Love scene for the first one, and then Creep playing in the third film.
chiefbrody622025-09-28 06:12
The first one is Starlord singing and dancing before he steals the Power Stone, and the third is when they're walking around Knowhere and carrying a drunk Starlord to his bed.
SnakeOilChampagne2025-09-22 18:44
Deadpool & Wolverine
dawne_breaker2025-09-22 18:54
Oh, I do remember that one now! Thank you! 🙂
Uncanny_Doom2025-09-22 17:56
Amazing honestly. One of the best overall openings in the MCU.
Dr_Disaster2025-09-24 05:54
BW is such a frustrating move because two thirds of it are honestly peak, but what misses (the villains and final act) REALLY miss. This movie was one reshoot away from being one of the very best Marvel projects.
Aromatic-Cupcake48022025-09-22 17:59
It feels like Black Widows original vision fit the tone of these credits and then they changed the movie. But suprisingly there’s no evidence anything change it just gathered dust for almost over a year due to Covid.
TrueLegateDamar2025-09-22 19:39
Ray Winstone said there were reshoots and that his villain originally was a lot darker and menacing instead of the buffoon in the released version.
rtslac2025-09-22 18:09
I love this cover of Smell's Like Teen Spirit. Probably a hot take, but I tend to prefer it to the original (probably because of the association to this stellar opening).
Canadyans2025-09-22 18:47
Doesn’t beat the original to me but I did really like this version.
TelephoneCertain53442025-09-22 21:21
Agreed loved this opening and loved the song to it so much.
daveknockwin2025-09-22 23:17
This should have been the movie. Lol.
SuchALovelyView2025-09-23 02:40
Felt like a more emotional black ops intro and I love it for that
lozzfonz2025-09-23 19:16
My (maybe) most controversial MCU opinion is just how much I love this movie and I think these credits are incredible but I’m really not sure I would have necessarily enjoyed sitting through something this relentlessly dark in tone. I think I’m just a sucker for super dysfunctional family dynamics though.
NelaOfRivia2025-09-24 00:17
and the rest was mid
Flying_Mohawk2772025-09-24 06:31
Hated this scene… because it really actually made me mad. Such a well done scene to show how despicable he was.
The saddest part… this kinda shit happens to little girls all over the world
PhilAsp2025-09-24 12:26
The only thing that was bad about the opening credits is that they spoiled the biggest mystery of the movie (i.e. who’s playing Taskmaster).
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This is just something you either loved or found corny. There’s no way my brain at the time felt like all of that was earned for Black Widow. It feels like something for a Marvel Zombies intro or something. It was way too much for a BW origin ten years too late.
To me, it's been an important part of Black Widow's backstory since they first showed it in AoU. It was a chance for one of the OG Avengers to get her chance to confront the trauma that has haunted her whole life. Unless your reasoning is just - you don't care about Black Widow's backstory, then there's not really a discussion to be had, just a matter of personal taste.
Some comments did mention that Marvel may have opted for a montage for Natasha's backstory because the topic was otherwise a bit too dark for Disney's taste to be made into actual scenes.
I would have preferred they dedicated at least a quarter of the runtime to explore this period of her life, but oh well.
Now Black Widow is what people think of now when they hear this rendition of Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Still blows my mind people don't talk about it that way.
That would make it more spy-like and espionage-flavored than what we ultimately got.
But nooooo, more of that wholesome relatable cringe family humour BS, women subjugated by men plotline (rehashed from Captain Marvel), and that horrendous abomination that was Taskmaster.
Had the same fucking problem with Moon Knight.
Have to give these a pass though, this was during a time where Disney and Marvel didn’t have their nuts.
The saddest part… this kinda shit happens to little girls all over the world
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